Brian D. wrote:Lots of carriers out there who, sad to say, have basic deficiencies in their training, mindset, and/or equipment.
We need lots more details before being able to reach any conclusions here.
That's true, otherwise you end up sounding like the police chief, who that day said his officer was a hero for quickly stopping the shooter. Meanwhile the real shooter is still out there. They claim they are "persuing" him as if they actually know who it even is, but haven't released a name yet.
As of this point we don't know for sure whether the deficiencies in training and mindset are strictly the concealed carrier, or also include the Alabama police officer. All we have so far are statements from the police dept.
It's not just details as mentioned on the web, but accurate ones. There is at least one website that I read last night (don't have the link right now) that says "several shoppers" had there guns drawn after the shooting started, but only one of those people was shot by police. The site didn't say if any of them were running or not. Who knows how accurate any of the stuff out so far is accurate or not?
There have been calls for the available video to be released, not happened so far. Here's some additonal info, might be accurate or not, who knows at this point?
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Hoover Police initially described its officer as "heroic" for bringing down Emantic "EJ" Bradford Jr. after two people were wounded at the Riverchase Galleria mall outside Birmingham Thanksgiving night. Then they retracted the statement, saying he was likely not the gunman responsible for the initial shooting, who remains at large.
Bradford's father said his 21-year-old son had a permit to carry the handgun. The family's lawyer said witnesses told them Bradford was trying to help by waving people to safety, and was shot "within milliseconds" by an officer who didn't say a word to him.
"It doesn't matter if you're a good guy with a gun, if you're black the police shoot and kill you and ask questions later," attorney Ben Crump said Monday on CNN, one of several national media appearances with Bradford's parents.
Police and the city of Hoover issued a more detailed statement Monday on the status of the investigation, the possible eventual release of body camera footage and the officer's decision to shoot.
"We can say with certainty Mr. Bradford brandished a gun during the seconds following the gunshots, which instantly heightened the sense of threat to approaching police officers responding to the chaotic scene," the statement says.
Hoover Police initially described its officer as "heroic" for bringing down Emantic "EJ" Bradford Jr. after two people were wounded at the Riverchase Galleria mall outside Birmingham Thanksgiving night. Then they retracted the statement, saying he was likely not the gunman responsible for the initial shooting, who remains at large.
Bradford's father said his 21-year-old son had a permit to carry the handgun. The family's lawyer said witnesses told them Bradford was trying to help by waving people to safety, and was shot "within milliseconds" by an officer who didn't say a word to him.
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"It doesn't matter if you're a good guy with a gun, if you're black the police shoot and kill you and ask questions later," attorney Ben Crump said Monday on CNN, one of several national media appearances with Bradford's parents.
Police and the city of Hoover issued a more detailed statement Monday on the status of the investigation, the possible eventual release of body camera footage and the officer's decision to shoot.
"We can say with certainty Mr. Bradford brandished a gun during the seconds following the gunshots, which instantly heightened the sense of threat to approaching police officers responding to the chaotic scene," the statement says.