Gramps wrote:M-Quigley wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/US/civilian-shoo ... d=55424657
Very little information so far, it could have been a domestic situation or it could've been random, no motive so far. The attacker was in allegedly in the process of leaving and the concealed carrier was allegedly entering when the concealed carrier shot the attacker, but the article doesn't mention things like how many were in the bar at the time, or how many were left after the shooting started, as other patrons ran out of the bar or hid when the shooting started. Some of the injuries of the people who weren't shot were due to escaping. It's unknown whether the attacker was trying to flee or just looking for more victims. Either way it's another success story for the idea of citizen concealed carry.
I didn't see concealed carrier in your ABC link or this link to Fox news
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Reading at 5:30 AM is not one of my strong points though!
I hope the armed citizen who stopped the bad guy was legal!
I was using that term generically, I should have said armed citizen. I haven't seen any information at that time about whether the armed citizen had a CHL or not, or whether it's required in that state.
Here is a another link, this one refers to the armed citizen as a concealed carrier. The problem with this link is the story is vastly different than other reports I've heard, in regards to where certain people were when the gunman started shooting.
Prior to me posting this reply, I heard an interesting viewpoint from someone. This individual stated that the armed citizen shouldn't have shot the guy, because
A: the guy was trying to escape (I expected someone to say this
)
B: Since the "vigilante"
shot the guy it's harder to figure out what the motive was.
I asked why that matters in the middle of a group of people getting shot, and the reply was he could've just had a beef against a certain person or group of people, and therefore you shouldn't get involved other than calling 911. This person based their opinion on a story that basically said the shooter went in, shot only at a couple of people, and then tried to leave.
http://fox2now.com/2018/05/25/man-opens ... im-police/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Witnesses report that the shooter was near the restaurant and fired at people as they walked toward the doors.
“She said they were getting ready to walk in the front door and evidently, the shooter was in the treeline and they were both shot by the front door,” recalled Dennis Will.
Family members say the suspect shot Natalie Will, and her daughter, 12-year-old Syniah Giles, as they were walking in front of the restaurant.
Authorities have not released the suspect’s identity at this point, but witnesses say stood out from the crowd.
Witnesses told News 4 the gunman was wearing eye and ear protection, leading many to believe that a lot of thought went into the attack.
“He was just a 20-something-year-old kid, I don’t know,” Benton said, “Didn’t look very old. He was wearing ear protection and eye protection that you would have at a shooting range, so obviously he intended to come here and shoot tonight.”
Benton said the shooter appeared to be acting strangely when he spotted him.
“He was just kind of wandering back and forth,” Benton said. “He was, initially when I first picked him up, he was walking as if nothing had happened.”
The Good Samaritans
There were several good Samaritans who took action to either stop the gunman or help those who were injured.
After the victims were shot, Benton said that he saw a citizen with a gun looking for the suspect.
“I spotted the [shooter] walking north up the sidewalk, and pointed him out to the guy who had the weapon, and then there was another guy who had one,” Benton remembered. “They were really screaming. They were like, ‘Stop! stop! stop! Please! Put the gun down! Please put the gun down!’ And I was pointing at him, I was like ‘Down! Put it down! Put it down!’ and they wound up exchanging fire.”
“We heard someone say, this man, yelling, ‘Put down the gun,’ before the second shots,” Morgan, another witness, said.
Authorities say a citizen with a concealed carry permit shot and killed the suspect at the scene.
“Thankfully the only person that is deceased is the person who was trying to harm others, and it looks like others are going to survive at this point. That`s the best thing that we can hope for at this point,” said Capt. Bo Mathews, with the Oklahoma City Police Department.