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Re: Corona virus

Postby WY_Not » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:20 am

Sure it does. Exchange your vows and carry on.

JustaShooter wrote:
WY_Not wrote:Good. Get the State out of the marriage business.

But that *isn't* getting the government out of the marriage business. It's quite the opposite.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby JustaShooter » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:23 pm

WY_Not wrote:
JustaShooter wrote:
WY_Not wrote:Good. Get the State out of the marriage business.

But that *isn't* getting the government out of the marriage business. It's quite the opposite.

Sure it does. Exchange your vows and carry on.

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You and I both know that's not how it works in the real world. Many, if not most, people want to get married in their church, who won't do it without a license since the law requires one. Many, if not most, want the health insurance benefits provided by their employer or other group, which you don't get unless the marriage is official. And so on. There are many things that go along with marriage in today's society that people *want*, that depend on the marriage being official - which today, requires a government license. So, as I said before, this does exactly the opposite of getting the government out of marriage, it inserts it even more firmly therein.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby bignflnut » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:55 pm

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Re: Corona virus

Postby WY_Not » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:28 pm

Last few places I've worked have offered insurance and such for partners, no stipulations of marriage being required. The one caveat for both situations (married/partners) is if the other person works then they must get their insurance from their own employer otherwise there is a hefty fee. Being married is not the huge benefit that it used to be. POAs, living wills, and wills take care of other issues. For anything else, just draw up the legal documents needed to handle financial matters. So only drawback is not having an "official " church ceremony.

JustaShooter wrote:
WY_Not wrote:Sure it does. Exchange your vows and carry on.

:roll:
You and I both know that's not how it works in the real world. Many, if not most, people want to get married in their church, who won't do it without a license since the law requires one. Many, if not most, want the health insurance benefits provided by their employer or other group, which you don't get unless the marriage is official. And so on. There are many things that go along with marriage in today's society that people *want*, that depend on the marriage being official - which today, requires a government license. So, as I said before, this does exactly the opposite of getting the government out of marriage, it inserts it even more firmly therein.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby M-Quigley » Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:36 am

The government is concerned that not enough people are applying for Covid funeral benefits of up to 9 grand, because

One reason for the lower number of reimbursement request could be attributed to FEMA’s requirement that a person’s death certificate must list COVID-19 as the cause of death.

“I think early on in the pandemic, they weren’t certain that the death was caused by COVID, and I’m sure some doctors were reluctant to put it down,” Glickler said.

But a revision in the FEMA policy has brought a change in the program. Now applicants can submit a signed statement from a certifying official, either a local medical examiner or coroner, attributing the death to COVID, as long as that death took place between Jan. 20 and May 16 of 2020.


I didn't see any examples of Doctors being reluctant to blame Covid for a death, in fact just the opposite.

https://www.whio.com/news/coronavirus/b ... T66EMTMNI/


On a different note, if someone has Covid and wants the antibody treatment with going to the hospital, a pharmacy in Ohio is now allowed to provide it.

https://www.whio.com/news/local/local-p ... DGSVKHDWI/
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Re: Corona virus

Postby Bruenor » Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:52 pm

3% !! Super effective.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... start.html
Fauci tells people who got J&J they should feel GOOD about taking a second shot and says it should never have been a single jab after study found that protection fell to just 3% in six months


A recently released study found that the J&J shot's protection fell from 88% in March to just 3% in August
In comparison, Moderna's vaccine effectiveness fell from 92% to 64% and Pfizer's vaccine protection dropped from 91% to 50%


J&J recipients should not be concerned about the jab’s lower efficacy, in comparison to that of Pfizer or Moderna, but should instead ‘feel good’ about the booster recommendation.


I feel good about you offering a ineffective vaccine, that will need boosters to make useful. nope not feelin it.

He also confirmed that those who got the J&J jab could be better off by getting a booster shot of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, which were proven to be more effective.


So what's next recommended vaccines from every manufacturer ?


Meanwhile on one of the podcasts I listen to one of the hosts has a nice case of COVID going, good hacking cough.. seems the vaccine didn't prevent him from getting it, big surprise..
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Re: Corona virus

Postby M-Quigley » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 am

Bruenor wrote:
Meanwhile on one of the podcasts I listen to one of the hosts has a nice case of COVID going, good hacking cough.. seems the vaccine didn't prevent him from getting it, big surprise..


Apparently it didn't prevent Colin Powell from getting it either, and dying, allegedly from "complications of covid". I haven't read any reports yet on which vaccine he got though, all the news would say is that he was fully vaccinated.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby bignflnut » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:19 am

Here's a montage of effective rates cratering.

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Re: Corona virus

Postby 147Doc » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:16 pm

M-Quigley wrote:
Bruenor wrote:
Meanwhile on one of the podcasts I listen to one of the hosts has a nice case of COVID going, good hacking cough.. seems the vaccine didn't prevent him from getting it, big surprise..


Apparently it didn't prevent Colin Powell from getting it either, and dying, allegedly from "complications of covid". I haven't read any reports yet on which vaccine he got though, all the news would say is that he was fully vaccinated.


He had some pretty substantial comorbidities. Multiple myeloma among them.
Powell had multiple myeloma, a blood cancer which was in remission, and early-stage Parkinson's disease, said a close friend who asked not to be named. The blood cancer reduces the body's ability to fight infection and puts people at higher risk for a severe case of the virus.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby High Power » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:01 pm

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Re: Corona virus

Postby WhyNot » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:07 am

I think that ^^ would've made national news. At least today's morning news at 6/am, 6:05/am. 606/am and of course 610 :P headlines.

I cannot find ANYTHING using a search of ''rand paul shutdown'' and ''rand paul november'' on conservative treehouse, redstate, foxnews, others. Nothing even on Clinton CNN. Someone WOULD have reported it.

Will it show at 9/am?? Wait & see. :)
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Re: Corona virus

Postby High Power » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:29 am

WhyNot wrote:I think that ^^ would've made national news. At least today's morning news at 6/am, 6:05/am. 606/am and of course 610 :P headlines.

I cannot find ANYTHING using a search of ''rand paul shutdown'' and ''rand paul november'' on conservative treehouse, redstate, foxnews, others. Nothing even on Clinton CNN. Someone WOULD have reported it.

Will it show at 9/am?? Wait & see. :)


The MSM will want to keep this quiet.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby Brian D. » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:13 am



As soon as I saw the misspellings ("ECT" rather than "ETC" and "FIREMAN" instead of "FIREFIGHTERS") my BS meter jumped to "Is this fake?". Yes, I'm really really cynical these days.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby High Power » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:38 am

Brian D. wrote:


As soon as I saw the misspellings ("ECT" rather than "ETC" and "FIREMAN" instead of "FIREFIGHTERS") my BS meter jumped to "Is this fake?". Yes, I'm really really cynical these days.


Good point. I’m cynical as well. Regardless of who’s idea it is, I hope it takes off and the country is shut down for a day because everyone calls in sick.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby M-Quigley » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:47 am

High Power wrote:
WhyNot wrote:I think that ^^ would've made national news. At least today's morning news at 6/am, 6:05/am. 606/am and of course 610 :P headlines.

I cannot find ANYTHING using a search of ''rand paul shutdown'' and ''rand paul november'' on conservative treehouse, redstate, foxnews, others. Nothing even on Clinton CNN. Someone WOULD have reported it.

Will it show at 9/am?? Wait & see. :)


The MSM will want to keep this quiet.


I disagree. The MSM would love to publish this, and afterwards accuse Sen. Paul of recommending something that (in their opinion) is going to potentially kill thousands people, particularly women and children. The fact is that if this even partly occurred and someone died from a slowdown of EMS services, the shutdown and Sen. Paul would be immediately blamed, whether a partial shutdown would've had anything to do with a slow response or not. Facts don't matter to most in the MSM, only emotion and sometimes political leanings. In fact, I'm surprised there isn't a few in the media that wouldn't run with it anyway, since they hate Sen. Paul so much. They can always headline it now and then offer a mild retraction later.
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