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DAYTON — A Dayton police officer is expected to recover after he and a suspect exchanged gunfire, leaving the suspect in critical condition.
We got very lucky last night,” Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley said. “When I got that text across my phone yesterday evening that is very concerning, but we’re very lucky that it was just a graze.”
For once I actually agree with something Nan Whaley said.
The shooting happened in the area of Ingram Street Tuesday evening after the officer located the suspect about 45 minutes after initially responding to a fraud call at Dollar General, according to the Dayton Police Department.

Dayton Police Department Interim Police Chief Matt Carper said the officer involved had responded to the Dollar General on Gettysburg Avenue at 6:44 p.m. on a fraud call.

The officer located the suspect in the 600 block of Ingram Street around 7:24 p.m. The officer attempted to stop the suspect, but a scuffle ensued.

The officer used his taser on the suspect, which brought the suspect to the ground. The suspect retrieved a handgun and fired at least one shot, which struck the officer on the side of his head.

The officer returned fire, striking the suspect multiple times.

Another officer removed took the injured officer to Miami Valley Hospital, where he is was listed in stable condition Tuesday night.

The officer’s injuries are considered non-life threatening, according to Carper.

The suspect was taken by medics to Miami Valley Hospital, where he is currently in critical condition.
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How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
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EricTheBald wrote:How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
The officer did get plunked in the noggin by a bullet before returning fire.
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EricTheBald wrote:How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
Shot placement is king with pistols.
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Whirlwind06 wrote:
EricTheBald wrote:How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
Shot placement is king with pistols.
^^This. Something like 80% of all gunshot victims shot with a handgun survive.
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JustaShooter wrote:
Whirlwind06 wrote:
EricTheBald wrote:How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
^^This. Something like 80% of all gunshot victims shot with a handgun survive.
^ Yup.

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Answer - Exactly what they were doing before they were shot with the handgun."

For another perspective, look at the Gramins/Maddox shootout: https://www.policemag.com/340699/shots- ... 08-25-2008" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ; along with a follow-up article: https://www.police1.com/officer-shootin ... pnqqHxwMq/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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EricTheBald wrote:How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
All handgun rounds suck, which is why shot placement is so critical.

ref: Officer Jared Reston who finally stopped his attacker with multiple contact shot to the head , Sgt Timmoth Grammins Who was shot 14 times and survived.
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JustaShooter wrote:
Whirlwind06 wrote:
EricTheBald wrote:How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
Shot placement is king with pistols.
^^This. Something like 80% of all gunshot victims shot with a handgun survive.
At least the person stopped shooting the cop, which in the end is the goal anyway. Of course if the suspects family is like other suspects families, they will eventually to someone, either on the news or social media, about how the police didn't need to shoot their relative so many times. :roll: If the suspect happens to turn their body at the same moment the police are shooting the family will claim the person was murdered because they were shot in the back. :roll:
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If you click on the original link in the OP they now have body cam footage of the encounter. The cop has been released from the hospital.
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EricTheBald wrote:How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
Modern trauma medicine is amazing. We have learned a LOT in our 20 year adventure in Afghanistan.
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Dave Shooter wrote:
EricTheBald wrote:How the hell do you shoot somebody multiple times, at a distance of a few feet, and he's laying in a hospital bed AT ALL, let alone being "stable".
Modern trauma medicine is amazing.
Exactly, so unless the shooter makes a CNS shot or the shootee bleeds out at the scene before medical help arrives, most likely he's going to make it.
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