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Re: Corona virus

Postby bignflnut » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:29 am

Bruenor wrote:Over Easter Wife dragged me to visit her niece and nephews and all their rugrats. Nephew is very left leaning (I think I can safely make that assessment as he stated previously he wanted to go to Portland to stand with Antifa, and he was stumping for Bernie) Don't you just love family gatherings ?

At one point he was lamenting what a crappy job our country has done with the COVID response. not harsh enough lockdowns, etc. and how it's never going to end because we are not serious enough about it. Then goes on to tell me about the family vacation planned to universal Studios in Florida in a couple weeks. for him the wife and 3 kids..

I can only laugh at how some people criticize the actions of others during this 'pandemic' then exhibit behaviors contrary to what they claim everyone should be doing. I mean you're supposedly concerned about the virus never ending because the govt and people are not taking it serious enough, so you go to a Theme park ? where you will interact with thousands of other people ? really ?


Someone isn't serious, I think we all agree.

If this were a REAL pandemic (something with a serious IFR ), would we be traveling, dining out, etc?
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Re: Corona virus

Postby WY_Not » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:35 am

Well, yeah. Typical socialist... rules are for thee not for me. It is always other people who should be doing/contributing more.

Bruenor wrote:Over Easter Wife dragged me to visit her niece and nephews and all their rugrats. Nephew is very left leaning (I think I can safely make that assessment as he stated previously he wanted to go to Portland to stand with Antifa, and he was stumping for Bernie) Don't you just love family gatherings ?

At one point he was lamenting what a crappy job our country has done with the COVID response. not harsh enough lockdowns, etc. and how it's never going to end because we are not serious enough about it. Then goes on to tell me about the family vacation planned to universal Studios in Florida in a couple weeks. for him the wife and 3 kids..

I can only laugh at how some people criticize the actions of others during this 'pandemic' then exhibit behaviors contrary to what they claim everyone should be doing. I mean you're supposedly concerned about the virus never ending because the govt and people are not taking it serious enough, so you go to a Theme park ? where you will interact with thousands of other people ? really ?
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Re: Corona virus

Postby DOA33 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:50 am

M-Quigley wrote:Since the Ohio Gov and the news media won't give any perspective on the numbers, here is an excellent site that line graphs the numbers, broken down by cases and deaths. Underneath the line graphs are state maps where if you put the cursor over a particular county you can get specific numbers for that county. Yes, Ohio overall in an extremely slight uptick in cases, but nowhere near what they were. The people in general that are currently getting covid now are not dying at the rate that it used to be either. This site isn't just for Ohio either, you can get stat's for other states as well.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/cor ... state/ohio

I wonder where they get their numbers? Here in KY our idiot gov still does daily press to cover the China Cough. He goes over the death rate and case numbers, the other day he said we had 8 new deaths for that day. Turns out we only had 4 new deaths that day and the other 4 was from a audit that reached back towards Christmas time. :evil:
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Re: Corona virus

Postby M-Quigley » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:21 am

DOA33 wrote:
M-Quigley wrote:Since the Ohio Gov and the news media won't give any perspective on the numbers, here is an excellent site that line graphs the numbers, broken down by cases and deaths. Underneath the line graphs are state maps where if you put the cursor over a particular county you can get specific numbers for that county. Yes, Ohio overall in an extremely slight uptick in cases, but nowhere near what they were. The people in general that are currently getting covid now are not dying at the rate that it used to be either. This site isn't just for Ohio either, you can get stat's for other states as well.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/cor ... state/ohio

I wonder where they get their numbers? Here in KY our idiot gov still does daily press to cover the China Cough. He goes over the death rate and case numbers, the other day he said we had 8 new deaths for that day. Turns out we only had 4 new deaths that day and the other 4 was from a audit that reached back towards Christmas time. :evil:


I wonder that too. The Ohio department of health posts their raw numbers on their website, so maybe there? Here is the usafacts.org statement on their website:

USAFacts presents metrics on all US governments, from federal records to a growing collection of state and county data, including coronavirus data. We also produce a 10-K modeled on the document that public companies must submit annually to the SEC for transparency and accountability to their investors.

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I just listened to part of a podcast on Covid given by Dr. Valerie Montgomery Rice, president and dean of the Morehouse School of Medicine, and her initial comments on the current stat's is basically what I said, # of cases are plateauing at a low level. but comparative cases of hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and deaths related to covid are all significantly down. All good news that the MSM could report but refuses to for some reason. :?:
She did go on to say that herd immunity has not been reached yet and there is a concern about the numbers changing due to new variants, but for now covid is generally not the stressor on the health care system the way it used to be.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby WhyNot » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:28 am

The facts of the matter is, no matter which side ppl were / are on masks-no-masks, THE TIME FOR THIS IS OVER. MANY many again I say many Ohioans have immunity , RIGHT NOW, either by gettn sick or gettn a shot. Some both! And unfortunately with diseases comes deaths but also...treatments. And that word typed in a plural is CORRECT, we now have SEVERAL treatments for this bugger virus.

And...it's coming summer...ppl are outside spaced out more...

fresh air...


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Re: Corona virus

Postby HDMI » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:56 pm

We were in wally world and our local Arby's today with no masks as were about 30-40% of the others maskless. No one said anything....
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Re: Corona virus

Postby M-Quigley » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:46 am

Mont. Co. prosecutor requiring all his employees to get an experimental covid vaccination.

https://www.whio.com/news/local/montgom ... 76DURPJO4/
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Re: Corona virus

Postby bignflnut » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:11 am

“In this situation it’s important to me as an elected official, as the boss of a large office, that I have to make sure that we are all safe, first of all. That my employees are safe, that they’re co-workers are safe. That they’re families are safe. And certainly that the people they come into contact with whether it’s survivors, victims, juries, potential jurors, judges, the police officers that come in daily and so it’s important to me that we keep everybody safe,” Heck said.

Creech argues that Heck’s stance to require the vaccine should not event be on the table at the moment. Creech himself said he does not plan to get the shot.

“To say take the shot or take a hike, I think that’s a bold statement. And it’s just not the way that anyone should operate,” Creech said. “These products are not approved by the FDA, so technically what they’re doing is forcing a vaccine that’s not been approved by the FDA on their people.”


"Public Safety (better living through chemistry)" vs Informed Consent / Nuremberg trials

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Re: Corona virus

Postby Javelin Man » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:34 am

The spelling could be a lot better by either the reporter or Mr. Heck.

The Heck with his policy, I might consider it worthy of following if it had complete FDA approval, not waiting 20 years for a tv ad that starts: "If you had a Pfizer COVID vaccine in 2021, call the law offices of..."
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Re: Corona virus

Postby WY_Not » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:54 am

No kidding. Not only are blood clots a possible side effect but apparently so are shingles. <smh> Wuhan flu... the "gift" that keeps on giving.

Javelin Man wrote:The spelling could be a lot better by either the reporter or Mr. Heck.

The Heck with his policy, I might consider it worthy of following if it had complete FDA approval, not waiting 20 years for a tv ad that starts: "If you had a Pfizer COVID vaccine in 2021, call the law offices of..."
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Re: Corona virus

Postby bignflnut » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:02 pm

The Nuremberg Code

1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.

This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.

The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.

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9. During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.



What Are the 4 Principles of Informed Consent?

There are 4 principles of informed consent:

You must have the capacity (or ability) to make the decision.
The medical provider must disclose information on the treatment, test, or procedure in question, including the expected benefits and risks, and the likelihood (or probability) that the benefits and risks will occur.
You must comprehend the relevant information.
You must voluntarily grant consent, without coercion or duress.


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Re: Corona virus

Postby bignflnut » Tue May 04, 2021 2:19 pm

M-Quigley wrote:Mont. Co. prosecutor requiring all his employees to get an experimental covid vaccination.

https://www.whio.com/news/local/montgom ... 76DURPJO4/



Update from another story:

On Friday, Heck issued rules for those few who returned to work with exemptions. “If you need to enter another’s work area … a mask MUST be worn for the entire time you are present EVEN IF ALONE. You must also DISINFECT ITEMS TOUCHED with antibacterial wipes,” the office missive stated.

“Remain in your office/cubicle with door closed (as applicable as much as possible),” it added, stressing that unvaccinated employees would be strictly forbidden to attend staff meetings in person.

On Monday, Stephanie Stock, president of Ohio Advocates for Medical Freedom, said her group learned that the county prosecutor fired one employee who refused to take an injection.

“He is an absolute villain,” Stock said of Heck, but other employees in his office had mistreated people who questioned the protocols.
‘You idiot’

Assistant prosecutor James Staley, who works in Heck’s office, replied to an Ohio resident’s email that pointed out all current COVID-19 vaccinations in circulation have been granted Emergency Use Authorization only and so cannot be mandated by insulting her.

“No it's not you idiot,” Staley emailed in reply.
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Re: Corona virus

Postby Brian D. » Tue May 04, 2021 2:25 pm

bignflnut wrote:
M-Quigley wrote:Mont. Co. prosecutor requiring all his employees to get an experimental covid vaccination.

https://www.whio.com/news/local/montgom ... 76DURPJO4/


I said it on Facebook and I'll say it here: Prosecutor Heck either needs to step up his toupee game, or quit his job and go to work for Elk & Elk.
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