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NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby bignflnut » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:38 am

President Donald Trump has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of two mass shootings, prompting a warning from the National Rifle Association and concerns among White House aides, according to lawmakers and administration officials.

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NRA chief executive Wayne LaPierre spoke with Trump on Tuesday after the president expressed support for a background check bill and told him it would not be popular among Trump's supporters, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to freely discuss internal talks. LaPierre also argued against the bill's merits, the officials said.


OH MERCY.

FRENCHIE is going to tell Trump not to give in to the antis???
Is he serious?
I dare him to come out strong against Trump on any of his proposals. What a fraud this guy is/has been. The NRA has lead the Eugenics charge against disarming the "mentally ill".

He lost this battle in the 90s, by his own hand.
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Re: NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby bignflnut » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:59 pm

While the NRA has memoryholed the March 2018 video made by the now ousted Chrissy Cox pushing ERPOs, many took the video and expressed outrage ...so it lives...

The duplicity of the NRA reigns supreme.
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Re: NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby bignflnut » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:07 am

But the prospect of a Rose Garden ceremony, his daughter thought, where Trump could sign a document and call it “historic” and “unprecedented”—and receive positive media attention—might be the best chance of yielding real change.

For a moment, it looked like it just might work. “He loved it. He was all spun up about it,” said a former senior White House official who, like others interviewed for this story, spoke with me on the condition of anonymity in order to share private conversations. On August 7, the president picked up the phone to discuss the idea with Wayne LaPierre, chief executive of the National Rifle Association. “It’s going to be great, Wayne,” Trump said, according to both a former senior White House official and an NRA official briefed on the call. “They will love us.” And if they—meaning the roughly 5 million people who make up the NRA’s active membership, and some of Trump’s electoral base—didn’t, Trump reportedly assured LaPierre, “I’ll give you cover.” (The White House did not return a request for comment for this story.)

“Wayne’s listening to that and thinking, Uh, no, Mr. President, we give you cover,” the former senior White House official said in describing the conversation. The president reportedly asked LaPierre whether the NRA was willing to give in at all on background checks. LaPierre’s response, the sources said, was unequivocal: “No.” With that, “the Rose Garden fantasy,” as the NRA official described it to me, was scrapped as quickly as it had been dreamed up.

Earlier this afternoon, according to a person briefed on the call, the president told LaPierre in another phone call that universal background checks were off the table. “He was cementing his stance that we already have background checks and that he’s not waffling on this anymore,” the source told me. “He doesn’t want to pursue it.” In the call, the source added, Trump said he wanted to focus now on “increasing funding” for mental-health care and directing attorneys general across the country to start prosecuting “gun crime” through federal firearms charges from the Justice Department.


Frenchie and Trump have considered the 2020 fallout...too late fellas...you missed the opportunity to lead in the wake of a tragedy.

Passing actual proRKBA laws is now the only path to return to the good graces of those who may consider voting for you.
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Re: NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby bignflnut » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:22 am

NRA says no thanks to the proposed Trump DOJ registry
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“This is a non-starter with the @NRA and our 5M members because it burdens law-abiding gun owners while ignoring what actually matters: fixing the broken mental health system and the prosecution of violent criminals.” –Jason Ouimet, @NRAILA's exec director



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Re: NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby M-Quigley » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:40 pm

In all the political discussion and news coverage of universal background checks, one point seems to be lost. All of the mass shooters in recent memory either passed a background check on their own or did a straw purchase, which universal checks won't solve anyway. The one mass shooter that actually took a background check and failed it, allegedly failed it four years ago. Let me repeat that, FOUR YEARS. Nothing was done about his attempt to buy a firearm, zip, nada, at least what's been made public so far. Why doesn't the government fix that problem first before worrying about doing even more background checks which will be similarily ignored?
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Re: NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby bignflnut » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:23 am

President Trump met in the White House on Friday with Wayne LaPierre, the chief executive of the National Rifle Association, and discussed prospective gun legislation and whether the N.R.A. could provide support for the president as he faces impeachment and a more difficult re-election campaign, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

During the meeting, Mr. LaPierre asked that the White House “stop the games” over gun control legislation, people familiar with the meeting said. It was not clear whether Mr. Trump asked Mr. LaPierre for his support, or what that support would look like.

In a statement Friday evening, an N.R.A. spokesman confirmed the meeting took place but insisted The Times’s account of the meeting was “inaccurate.”

“The N.R.A. categorically denies any discussion occurred about special arrangements pertaining to the N.R.A.’s support of the President and vice versa,” the statement said.


One could say the same to Frenchie regarding NICS, Trumpstock ban, Othering the Mentally Ill, gun free zones, etc...
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Re: NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby bignflnut » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:16 am

The Trump White House is quietly reaching out to Second Amendment organizations and high-level supporters to let them know that the president is no longer backing any form of “red flag” firearms legislation or changes to the current background check laws, according to sources familiar with the conversations.

According to one individual who spoke to Bearing Arms on the condition of anonymity, the White House is instead looking to focus efforts on mental health, and is “looking at something along the lines of Cornyn’s bill”, a reference to Sen. John Cornyn’s RESPONSE Act unveiled this week. The source was careful to point out, however, that the White House has not endorsed the Cornyn proposal, and may not be on board with all of the provisions.


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Re: NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby Javelin Man » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:07 pm

Very nice! But if Trump isn't going to come straight out and publicly pronounce that Red Flag laws are bad, I am prone to not believing him. :|
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Re: NRA warns TRUMP -HOW RICH!!

Postby bignflnut » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:56 am

Javelin Man wrote:Very nice! But if Trump isn't going to come straight out and publicly pronounce that Red Flag laws are bad, I am prone to not believing him. :|


And you seem to be justified...
Last Wednesday, U.S. Attorney General William Barr issued a memorandum to all U.S. attorneys, law enforcement agencies and top ranking Justice Department officials announcing the imminent implementation of a new “national disruption and early engagement program” aimed at detecting potential mass shooters before they commit any crime.

Per the memorandum, Barr has “directed the Department [of Justice] and the FBI to lead an effort to refine our ability to identify, assess and engage potential mass shooters before they strike.” The Attorney General further described the coming initiative, slated to be implemented early next year, as “an efficient, effective and programmatic strategy to disrupt individuals who are mobilizing towards violence, by all lawful means.” More specific information about the program is set to follow the recent memorandum, according to Barr, though it is unclear if that forthcoming document will be made public.

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Perhaps the most jarring aspect of the memorandum is Barr’s frank admission that many of the “early engagement” tactics that the new program would utilize were “born of the posture we adopted with respect to terrorist threats.” In other words, the foundation for many of the policies utilized following the post-9/11 “war on terror” are also the foundation for the “early engagement” tactics that Barr seeks to use to identify potential criminals as part of this new policy. Though those “war on terror” policies have largely targeted individuals abroad, Barr’s memorandum makes it clear that some of those same controversial tactics will soon be used domestically.

Barr’s memorandum also alludes to current practices by the FBI and DOJ that will shape the new plan. Though more specifics of the new policy will be provided in the forthcoming notice, Barr notes that “newly developed tactics” used by the Joint Terrorist Task Forces “include the use of clinical psychologists, threat assessment professionals, intervention teams and community groups” to detect risk and suggests that the new “early engagement program” will work along similar lines. Barr also alludes to this “community” approach in a separate instance, when he writes that “when the public ‘says something’ to alert us to a potential threat, we must do something.”


See Something. Say Something. Swat Something.

In recent decades, and especially after the September 11 attacks, Americans have quietly traded an increasing number of civil liberties for increased government “counter-terrorism” programs and wars purportedly waged to “keep us safe.” Now, those same policies used to target “terrorists” are set to be used against ordinary Americans, whose electronic lives and communications are now set to be scoured for evidence of “mental illness.” If these untransparent algorithms flag an individual, that could be enough lead to court-ordered “mental health treatment” or even imprisonment regardless of whether or not a crime was committed or even planned.

As a consequence, William Barr’s coming “pre-crime” program is arguably worse than the stuff of dystopian science fiction novels and films as it not only aims to detain Americans who have committed no crime but will expressly target individuals based on their use of electronic consumer products and the contents of their communications with their friends, family, co-workers, and others.


A Red Flag Confiscation scheme by any other name is just as tyrannical.
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