Weakened SB 215 (unlicensed carry) sent to Governor DeWine

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Re: Weakened SB 215 (unlicensed carry) sent to Governor DeWi

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Wgonz wrote:
Wgonz wrote:…DeWine has until March 13th to either sign the bill, veto it, or do nothing. If he does nothing, it becomes law automatically. If he either signs it or does nothing, it will become law after 90 days. So it is not immediate. DO NOT start carrying now thinking it is law. You MUST wait until it actually goes into effect on Day 90.
CORRECTION: I believe the deadline is March 15th (not the 13th).
So he has until 11:59pm tomorrow?
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FormerNavy wrote:
Wgonz wrote:
Wgonz wrote:…DeWine has until March 13th to either sign the bill, veto it, or do nothing. If he does nothing, it becomes law automatically. If he either signs it or does nothing, it will become law after 90 days. So it is not immediate. DO NOT start carrying now thinking it is law. You MUST wait until it actually goes into effect on Day 90.
CORRECTION: I believe the deadline is March 15th (not the 13th).
So he has until 11:59pm tomorrow?
That is my understanding, yes.
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And it's signed...

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Effective June 12th, ya’ll. Don’t jump the gun and get yourselves in trouble.
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Wgonz wrote:Effective June 12th, ya’ll. Don’t jump the gun and get yourselves in trouble.
You're jumping the gun. It's 90 days after it is processed and docketed.
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I can respect the fact he held to his word. 27 more states to go
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from the news link:
"It’s a fantasy to think this is going to make us safer," Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey said.

The shooting accuracy of trained deputies and police officers drops to about 40% in high stress situations.

"And that’s for an expert shooter...," McGuffey said. "You are going to have people carrying that have no training."
Is the Sheriff trying to imply deputies and police officers are "expert shooters"? :roll:

I wonder how much revenue the Hamilton county Sheriff's dept. gets from the licensing program, or how many deputies teach CCW classes on the side? :?:
Of course if asked the Sheriff will indignantly reply that it's not about the money but public safety. :roll:
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I think I'll keep renewing my CHL, worth it to skip the NICS background check.
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If Indiana follows suit, I may not renew.
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So reading what was passed. If you do not have a CCW can you not legally carry in a vehicle?
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miker wrote:So reading what was passed. If you do not have a CCW can you not legally carry in a vehicle?
Not until the law goes into effect.
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But in section 1 it has this

C) No person shall knowingly transport or have a loaded firearm in a vessel in a manner that the firearm is accessible to the operator or any passenger.
(D) No person shall knowingly transport or have a firearm in a vessel unless it is unloaded and is carried in one of the following ways:
(1) In a closed package, box, or case;
(2) In plain sight with the action opened or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or that cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.

The only thing I see that says you can carry in a vehicle is
(2) Divisions (C) and (D) of this section do not apply to a person who transports or possesses a handgun in a vessel and who has been issued a concealed handgun license that is valid at the time of that transportation or possession or who, at the time of that transportation or possession, either is carrying a valid concealed handgun license or is an active duty member of the armed forces of the United States and is carrying a valid military identification card and documentation of successful completion of firearms training that meets or exceeds the training requirements described in division (G)(1) of section 2923.125 of the Revised Code, unless the person knowingly is in a place on the vessel described in division (B) of section 2923.126 of the Revised Code.
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Where this really helps is worrying about an unarmed relative in a vehicle when the CHL holder forgets and leave their weapon in the vehicle. I’ve worried about my daughter being charged when my son in law goes into someplace and leaves her in the truck with his loaded Shield. Remote possibility but still something I no longer have to think about.
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miker wrote:But in section 1 it has this

C) No person shall knowingly transport or have a loaded firearm in a vessel in a manner that the firearm is accessible to the operator or any passenger.
(D) No person shall knowingly transport or have a firearm in a vessel unless it is unloaded and is carried in one of the following ways:
(1) In a closed package, box, or case;
(2) In plain sight with the action opened or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or that cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.

The only thing I see that says you can carry in a vehicle is
(2) Divisions (C) and (D) of this section do not apply to a person who transports or possesses a handgun in a vessel and who has been issued a concealed handgun license that is valid at the time of that transportation or possession or who, at the time of that transportation or possession, either is carrying a valid concealed handgun license or is an active duty member of the armed forces of the United States and is carrying a valid military identification card and documentation of successful completion of firearms training that meets or exceeds the training requirements described in division (G)(1) of section 2923.125 of the Revised Code, unless the person knowingly is in a place on the vessel described in division (B) of section 2923.126 of the Revised Code.
Never mind with a little bit of digging found section 2923.111
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