https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legisl ... 133-HB-349H. B. No. 349 - Representative Weinstein (D).
Cosponsors: Representatives Boggs (D), Boyd (D), Brown (D), Crawley (D), Crossman (D), Kelly (D), Leland (D), Lepore-Hagan (D), Lightbody (D), Liston (D), Miller, A. (D), O'Brien (D), Robinson (D), Russo (D), Sheehy (D), Skindell (D), Smith, K. (D), Sobecki (D), Sykes (D), Upchurch (D), West (D).
To amend section 109.52 and to enact sections 109.5731, 2923.191, and 2923.192 of the Revised Code to generally prohibit a person from possessing a large capacity magazine and to establish a large capacity magazine registry.
H.B. 349: Regulate "large capacity" magazines
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Re: H.B. 349: Regulate "large capacity" magazines
Well, that would make a good number of my handgun require me to register the mags for them or modify the mags so they couldn't load more than ten rounds and that doesn't even address my 10/22 mags.
I wonder if these dimwits have any idea what the size of standard handgun mags are.
I wonder if these dimwits have any idea what the size of standard handgun mags are.
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Re: H.B. 349: Regulate "large capacity" magazines
If they were looking to be effective ( in their minds ) they would make everyone turn in every mag over 10 rounds. The “ registry “ language just says to me they want to “back door” gun registration in total which of course is their road to confiscation. It is actually sad that leaders in this state and country are so pitifully ignorant.
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Re: H.B. 349: Regulate "large capacity" magazines
As I read the Bill, they want you to declare your "over 10" magazines on a form to get them 'grandfathered' (for now...).
Officially, you can not sell, trade or transfer them.
At the moment, it appears that there are no fees or taxes provisioned in the Bill.
It is kind of useless as anything other than a backdoor registration for what kind of guns you own.
As I see it, there is no provision, nor practical method available to serialize or identify individual magazines... If in the future you are found with 5 magazines for a "phased plasma rifle in the forty Watt range", and you have previously recorded owning at least five of them.... You are good to go.
I can imagine a situation where someone would declare
I own; 35 Zd,45 high-caps, 127 ak-47 mags,3,000 AR-15 mags.... continuing to register a massive catalog of real, desired and imaginary magazines... In case they should find themselves unexpectedly in possession of said device in the future.(or miscounted... forgot a few)
"Yea...I have about fifteen-hundred magazines to register...Gun? Lol I don't own any of 'em... Don't you know? Gunz-iz- dangerous... I just got the magazines as an investment... Here is the list..."
If enough people did this,. It would overwhelme the system with so much junk information that if it would be useless as a list for the purpose of confiscation, they would be spending more time looking for phantom guns than real ones
If in the future, they should decide to Tax/collect , confiscate or inspect Said evil mags, they would inconveniently turn out to be lost, stolen, worn beyond use, de-milled, disposed of, or lost in a tragic boating accident... Or allien obduction....
Without a nearly impossible to implement serialization program, they would have no way to know when you aquired transferred or traded a magazine after the registration period, as long as you are not found to be in possession of a greater number of mags than you originally claimed.
It doesn't say anything about having to own a firearm for a mag... after all, it's not a'gun registration', it's a 'magazine registration', you simply baught them because you planed on buying one some day... Or, you sold /lost,/destroyed the gun, being a good law abiding citizen, you couldn't transfer the mags with the gun...And that is what the story is when they come for the guns.
If this was a gun registration skeam... I would say resist... But, in this case, for magazines... I think I would have to say, register the mags,... Lots and lots and lots and lots of magazines, lol
By the way, that Phased Plasma rifle... I think I hid that one in the septic tank... I'll go get the hose so you can rinse off after you get it... I think it might be in the bottom rear corner....
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Officially, you can not sell, trade or transfer them.
At the moment, it appears that there are no fees or taxes provisioned in the Bill.
It is kind of useless as anything other than a backdoor registration for what kind of guns you own.
As I see it, there is no provision, nor practical method available to serialize or identify individual magazines... If in the future you are found with 5 magazines for a "phased plasma rifle in the forty Watt range", and you have previously recorded owning at least five of them.... You are good to go.
I can imagine a situation where someone would declare
I own; 35 Zd,45 high-caps, 127 ak-47 mags,3,000 AR-15 mags.... continuing to register a massive catalog of real, desired and imaginary magazines... In case they should find themselves unexpectedly in possession of said device in the future.(or miscounted... forgot a few)
"Yea...I have about fifteen-hundred magazines to register...Gun? Lol I don't own any of 'em... Don't you know? Gunz-iz- dangerous... I just got the magazines as an investment... Here is the list..."
If enough people did this,. It would overwhelme the system with so much junk information that if it would be useless as a list for the purpose of confiscation, they would be spending more time looking for phantom guns than real ones
If in the future, they should decide to Tax/collect , confiscate or inspect Said evil mags, they would inconveniently turn out to be lost, stolen, worn beyond use, de-milled, disposed of, or lost in a tragic boating accident... Or allien obduction....
Without a nearly impossible to implement serialization program, they would have no way to know when you aquired transferred or traded a magazine after the registration period, as long as you are not found to be in possession of a greater number of mags than you originally claimed.
It doesn't say anything about having to own a firearm for a mag... after all, it's not a'gun registration', it's a 'magazine registration', you simply baught them because you planed on buying one some day... Or, you sold /lost,/destroyed the gun, being a good law abiding citizen, you couldn't transfer the mags with the gun...And that is what the story is when they come for the guns.
If this was a gun registration skeam... I would say resist... But, in this case, for magazines... I think I would have to say, register the mags,... Lots and lots and lots and lots of magazines, lol
By the way, that Phased Plasma rifle... I think I hid that one in the septic tank... I'll go get the hose so you can rinse off after you get it... I think it might be in the bottom rear corner....
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Re: H.B. 349: Regulate "large capacity" magazines
I guess they would really be upset with my 100 round magazines.
I wouldn't register crap. Why are we moving backwards in Ohio instead of advancing.
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Re: H.B. 349: Regulate "large capacity" magazines
And why not the (D)'s trying anything & everything, with a VERY obvious left of 2A gov in offorce?I wouldn't register crap. Why are we moving backwards in Ohio instead of advancing.
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Kinda hard to actually register something with no serial number and no need to provide ID to buy...
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Re: H.B. 349: Regulate "large capacity" magazines
They probably want you to register it to pair with one specific firearm and will require the S/N for that gun.dustymedic wrote:Kinda hard to actually register something with no serial number and no need to provide ID to buy...
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I own some standard capacity AR mags, but have nothing to fit them into. Riddle me that...schmieg wrote:They probably want you to register it to pair with one specific firearm and will require the S/N for that gun.dustymedic wrote:Kinda hard to actually register something with no serial number and no need to provide ID to buy...
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I also own magazines without something to fit them into. When I sold the firearms I didn't include all the mag's I had for them because I thought that I'd be buying them or similar guns again in the future. I only sold the guns because I needed the money for something else at the time. Plus I found a lot of them in a box after I'd already sold the guns. Now I've got to decide what to do with them. Do I:evan price wrote:I own some standard capacity AR mags, but have nothing to fit them into. Riddle me that...schmieg wrote:They probably want you to register it to pair with one specific firearm and will require the S/N for that gun.dustymedic wrote:Kinda hard to actually register something with no serial number and no need to provide ID to buy...
A: sell them now while it's still legal
B: buy guns to fit them
C: virtue signal by videoing them getting cut in half to show I care about gun violence
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We haven't moved backwards yet. The reps on that list have introduced anti freedom legislation in the past, and will continue to do so in the future until something gets passed.TB wrote:I guess they would really be upset with my 100 round magazines.
I wouldn't register crap. Why are we moving backwards in Ohio instead of advancing.
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We all know that this crap will never pass the state house or senate.
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No, we do NOT know that. We hope it is so but we do NOT know it.
What I do know is that I'm old enough to not give a @#%@$#$ what these traitors in Columbus and DC try to dictate from on high. My property and my rights are non-negotiable. I will not register anything. I will not turn anything in. I will not comply. If they think otherwise then the are free to have the courage of their traitorous convictions and come kill me. I simply do not care any more.
What I do know is that I'm old enough to not give a @#%@$#$ what these traitors in Columbus and DC try to dictate from on high. My property and my rights are non-negotiable. I will not register anything. I will not turn anything in. I will not comply. If they think otherwise then the are free to have the courage of their traitorous convictions and come kill me. I simply do not care any more.
Star56 wrote:We all know that this crap will never pass the state house or senate.
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Re: H.B. 349: Regulate "large capacity" magazines
Some do, some don't, those that do....don't care and don't want you to have them either way.schmieg wrote:I wonder if these dimwits have any idea what the size of standard handgun mags are.
As was pointed out already, OH isn't moving backwards, currently it's closer to being stagnant then it is anything else.TB wrote:Why are we moving backwards in Ohio instead of advancing.