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HB 243 - OH Knife pre-emption

Postby Bruenor » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:52 pm

Logical next step

The first hearing on Knife Rights’ Ohio Knife Law Preemption bill, HB 243, was held today. The Government Oversight Committee sponsor's hearing is the first of three hearings to be held on this bill. Sponsor Representative Al Cutrona introduced the bill and answered questions from committee members. Knife Rights Director of Legislative Affairs, Todd Rathner, had been in Ohio the week prior lobbying for this bill and its companion Senate bill, SB 156.

This bill follows enactment on April 12th of Knife Rights’ Ohio Knife Law Reform bill, SB 140. Without knife law preemption making those reforms applicable statewide, numerous cities and towns in Ohio are still able to ban many knives that are perfectly legal under Ohio’s statutes.
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Re: HB 243 - OH Knife pre-emption

Postby lar1 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:42 pm

Ohio law takes effect legalizing concealed knife carry; also allows for brass knuckles
The law also permits manufacturing, sale and possession of brass knuckles, cestuses, billy clubs, blackjacks, sandbags, switchblade, springblade and gravity knives.

Credit: WTOL 11
Author: Jake Zuckerman (Ohio Capital Journal)
Published: 1:09 PM EDT April 13, 2021
Updated: 1:30 PM EDT April 13, 2021
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COLUMBUS, Ohio — Ohioans can now secretly carry knives under a new law that took effect Monday.

Prior law prohibited anyone in the state from carrying a concealed “deadly weapon” other than a handgun. House Bill 140 codifies into the law that knives, razors, or cutting instruments not used as a weapon do not count as a “deadly weapon.”

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Similarly, the new law allows for the manufacturing, sale and possession of brass knuckles, cestuses, billy clubs, blackjacks, sandbags, switchblade knives, springblade knives, gravity knives, and similar weapons.

The bill passed on a nearly unanimous vote in the Senate (one Democrat opposed) and roughly on party lines in the House where five Democrats joined all Republicans voting in favor.


“This is a great day for Ohioans who no longer have to worry that they might be arrested under a dangerously vague state law for carrying a common tool, their pocket-knife, concealed in their pocket,” said Doug Ritter, an advocate and founder of Knife Rights, an advocacy group.

A powerful state law preempts cities or municipalities from imposing any gun restrictions on Ohioans beyond state and federal law. However, no such law exists for knives.

Six House Republicans have introduced a knife pre-emption law. To date, the bill has not yet received a committee hearing.

Last week, a “stand your ground” law took effect in Ohio, which removes the legal requirement that a person reasonably try to retreat from a perceived attack before responding with deadly force.

this was on WTOL channel11 website. So, can switchblades be carried in ohio now? Really?
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Re: HB 243 - OH Knife pre-emption

Postby Bruenor » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:56 pm

lar1 wrote:Ohio law takes effect legalizing concealed knife carry; also allows for brass knuckles
The law also permits manufacturing, sale and possession of brass knuckles, cestuses, billy clubs, blackjacks, sandbags, switchblade, springblade and gravity knives.

this was on WTOL channel11 website. So, can switchblades be carried in ohio now? Really?


Yes provided you are not carrying it 'as a weapon'... a knife is a tool.
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Re: HB 243 - OH Knife pre-emption

Postby lar1 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:50 pm

great. Out of curiosity, how are brass knuckles a tool compared to a weapon?
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Re: HB 243 - OH Knife pre-emption

Postby JustaShooter » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:50 am

lar1 wrote:great. Out of curiosity, how are brass knuckles a tool compared to a weapon?

They are a weapon. Unlike knives and other edged tools, Ohio law still considers them weapons. The new law didn't change them in any way *except* that it is now legal to manufacture and sell them. They've always been legal to possess, but could arguably be illegal to carry concealed.
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