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SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby Mal R » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:28 pm

I received an email this morning from Knife Rights about SB 140. While it isn't firearm related, I wouldn't wouldn't mind seeing this go through.

We are not yet done with 2020! Knife Rights' Director of Legislative Affairs, Todd Rathner, has spent the better part of the past two weeks in Columbus, Ohio, lobbying hard to get our Ohio Knife Law Reform Bill, SB 140, out of committee. As a result of his efforts, SB 140 was just passed out of the House Criminal Justice Committee with a bipartisan vote of 7-4.

SB140 already passed the Senate 32-1 in June of 2019. We appreciate the leadership of Chairman George Lang in moving SB 140 forward. The bill now moves to the full House for action.


Senate Bill 140 would change Ohio knife law by making two separate substantive changes:

1. Repealing the ban on manufacture and sale of "switchblade," "spring blade" and "gravity" knives;

2. Clearing up the confusion in Ohio law regarding carry of ANY knife by defining a knife, razor or cutting instrument as a "deadly weapon" or "weapon" ONLY if it is used as a weapon. This would allow carrying any knife concealed in Ohio.

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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby WhyNot » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:05 am

That's an intimate distance self preservation, DEFENSIVE weapon.

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHAT I USE, at arm's length?

So if I can grab a hammer instead of my Buck folder I guess the SD encounter, AT ARM'S LENGTH, will be Ok then?


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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby WY_Not » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:25 pm

If passed, will this bill have preemption? Or will cities and towns be able to still pass/enforce absurdly restrictive laws?
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby JustaShooter » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:13 pm

WY_Not wrote:If passed, will this bill have preemption?

No. One of the significant flaws with the bill.

WY_Not wrote:Or will cities and towns be able to still pass/enforce absurdly restrictive laws?

Yes, it will change nothing with respect to onerous local ordinances.
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby WY_Not » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:27 pm

Thanks. Figured as much but figured I'd ask. So... why waste any capital, good will, or leverage on the bill?

JustaShooter wrote:
WY_Not wrote:If passed, will this bill have preemption?

No. One of the significant flaws with the bill.

WY_Not wrote:Or will cities and towns be able to still pass/enforce absurdly restrictive laws?

Yes, it will change nothing with respect to onerous local ordinances.
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby Brian D. » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:52 am

Yeah, this bill carries the weight of..a polite suggestion to localities. Big fat hairy deal.
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby WY_Not » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:38 pm

So I see that this passed the House on the 27th of June and the Senate on the 17th of Dec. Nothing listed in the status after that. Did it need reconciled? Did it get sent to the tiny tyrant, DeSwine?
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby JustaShooter » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:36 am

WY_Not wrote:So I see that this passed the House on the 27th of June and the Senate on the 17th of Dec. Nothing listed in the status after that. Did it need reconciled? Did it get sent to the tiny tyrant, DeSwine?

I don't think it needed reconciled, but in any case I've not seen any updates.
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby valian » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:32 pm

Buckeyefireamrs stated today that SB140 did not pass... that sounded weird because many groups on the internet were stating that it had gone to the governor. What I see here : https://legiscan.com/OH/bill/SB140/2019 is that it passed the Senate on 6/27/2019 and the House of Representatives on 12/17/20 and then died in chamber telling me that the Senate and House could not agree on the final bill or something and that the House may have changed something in the bill that could not be reconciled or someone didn't want to reconcile.
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby Glock Rock » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:08 pm

Ok great, so I can legally carry a really deadly weapon like a H&K P30 with 18 rounds of 9mm, but not a out the front automatic opening knife like a Microtech Troodon.

Makes sense.
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby Brian D. » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:00 am

Glock Rock wrote:Ok great, so I can legally carry a really deadly weapon like a H&K P30 with 18 rounds of 9mm, but not a out the front automatic opening knife like a Microtech Troodon.

Makes sense.


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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby rottman43055 » Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:38 pm

According to Knife Rights facebook page DeWine signed this and it takes effect April 10th.
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Re: SB 140 Permit concealed carry of non-weapon knives

Postby Glock Rock » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:32 pm

Good because I am on an OTF jones buying binge.
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