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HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby Chuck » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:19 am

On May 28 the House Federalism Committee adopted a sub bill that decriminalizes failing to notify completely.
The wording now says that if you are packing you must tell them either before or when the LEO asks.
IOW, if the officer asks, you must tell, otherwise, you don't have to.
Further, there is no penalty for violating that section of law.

Our bill last session, was a clean strike out of all language regarding notification and I took some heavy questioning the right to remain silent, even when asked.
My position was that it should ALWAYS be an option to remain silent without committing a crime.
This became a sticking point and our refusal to compromise led some legislators to find other groups that would approve weakening it.
The disbelief on certain senator's faces when I told them I'd rather see it killed than passed watered down, and please don't bring it up during lame duck, made me wonder if we weren't burning bridges we oughtn't.

Now this session, HB 425, was introduced as a repeat of the watered down version (less penalty $) and we refused to support it.
I had several conversations with the sponsor and he understood our position.
Then, after several committee hearings, we heard about this sub bill, got a copy of it, and submitted testimony in favor of it.
It took two more committee meetings before they adopted the sub bill, and one after that before they voted it out.
It just missed being debated on the House floor last Thursday, and should be first up when the House next meets, 6-9-2020 according to their website.

So that's what's happening.
Sorry for the lack of updates.
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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby Javelin Man » Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:49 am

I can get behind this bill! It gets it down to the same as any other motorist/pedestrian where a police officer asks if you have any weapons in the car and you get to answer truthfully, whether you have a CHL or not. You are correct, it doesn't remove the right to silence. That can be dictated by a court somewhere.

Thank you for this update, I've been waiting for the notification to go away for 16 years.
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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby Brian D. » Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:56 am

Good news, and Chuck, never sweat waiting on giving updates until something of note occurs where the ball actually moves down field.
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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby AlanM » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:00 am

Has anyone pointed out that if a person under disability is carrying requiring notification violates their fifth amendment rights?

If the goblins aren't required to notifiy why are we?
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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby WhyNot » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:49 am

Hat's off to Chuck n the crew :D :D

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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby pk47 » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:21 am

Thank you. This is why I like supporting OFCC.
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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby Chuck » Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:54 pm

Our bill passed the Ohio House last night.
I do not have the vote tally.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio- ... r-BB15oD1R
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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby docachna » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:28 pm

I'm coming up on 8 years living in Tennessee now.

No Duty To Notify since Day One I moved down here.

The world hasn't ended yet. No shootouts in the street. No increased jeopardy to cops by devious gun-toters.

But, Antifa et al. are threatening to take over Legislative Plaza in downtown Nashville at 5:00, so stay tuned.......
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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby ohiodff » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:56 pm

Chuck wrote:Our bill passed the Ohio House last night.
I do not have the vote tally.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio- ... r-BB15oD1R

Awesome to hear, what's next and what's the prognosis?
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Re: HB 425 Modify Duty to Notify, now changed to no penalty

Postby techmike » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:56 pm

Thanks for the update Chuck, and to everyone involved. Great job!
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