Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
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Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
Today. I expect charges to be dropped this week.
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I saw that too. Looks like BGSU thinks they can ban anyone with a gun from campus. From our gun walks at OSU, my memory is they can only enforce that against people with ties to the university. Everything I've read is this guy has no ties. That said, I can find nothing about what firearm he had or how he was carrying.
https://www.wtol.com/article/news/crime ... a96fbc2f07"no person shall possess, store or use a firearm, deadly weapon or dangerous ordinance as defined in the Ohio Revised Code, in and/or on university owned, rented and/or sponsored property except where specifically permitted."
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Re: Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
There was an open carry march through the BGSU campus about 2-3 years ago without incident.
According to a few sources at U he had a flag and his gun over his shoulder. The inciting panic nonsense is an old trick LE would try a decade or more a ago. Courts have pretty much said if its legal it cannot incite panic.
We will see.
According to a few sources at U he had a flag and his gun over his shoulder. The inciting panic nonsense is an old trick LE would try a decade or more a ago. Courts have pretty much said if its legal it cannot incite panic.
We will see.
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I couldn't get the information out of the news source as to where he was walking; on the public sidewalk or through campus. Of course, the news wouldn't have any reason to specify that, just that a man with a gun was walking and students were scared.
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Re: Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
If he'd given the local and college police notice like BB62 did, unlikely he'd have gotten arrested. Of course he shouldn't have been anyhow, the way this reads. Also, they're less likely to monkey with a group of open carriers too. Five or ten arrestees can afford to file a really big lawsuit. With a hundred, you can sometimes get the police to stop traffic and such as needed.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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Re: Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
kcclark wrote:I saw that too. Looks like BGSU thinks they can ban anyone with a gun from campus. From our gun walks at OSU, my memory is they can only enforce that against people with ties to the university. Everything I've read is this guy has no ties. That said, I can find nothing about what firearm he had or how he was carrying.
https://www.wtol.com/article/news/crime ... a96fbc2f07"no person shall possess, store or use a firearm, deadly weapon or dangerous ordinance as defined in the Ohio Revised Code, in and/or on university owned, rented and/or sponsored property except where specifically permitted."
That's BGSU policy.... violating policy is not a crime... which is why they used the old "oh open carry, charge 'em with inducing panic" trick. IIRC, the ORC says you can't carry in university buildings.... open carry on the grounds is perfectly legal. At least that's my recollection.
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I was visiting a friend a few country blocks away from an OSU campus. Surprised to see the traditional circle-slash ''no guns'' signs on the edge of the OSU property, covering the vast field of... weeds and small brush hoggable sized trees.
Is this legit?
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Re: Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
Unfortunately, it is - you cannot legally carry concealed handguns onto OSU or other college/university property, unless they specifically allow it. Open carry, however, is perfectly legal on the grounds of any public property, and as a state university OSU's grounds are public property.WhyNot wrote:I was visiting a friend a few country blocks away from an OSU campus. Surprised to see the traditional circle-slash ''no guns'' signs on the edge of the OSU property, covering the vast field of... weeds and small brush hoggable sized trees.
Is this legit?
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Re: Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
Ooops, and the topic dejoiur is, out a-walking around. As is, outside a vehicleyou cannot legally carry concealed handguns onto OSU or other college/university property, unless they specifically allow it. Open carry, however, is perfectly legal...
I M referencing driving onto the OSU campus, securing my CHL permitted pistol in my vehicle in XYZ fashion and entering a building
I thought that was legit; therefore, the signs posted as an all-encompassing ''ban'' would be NOT legit
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Yes, you can possess your handgun in your vehicle as long as the gun doesn't leave the vehicle, you lock the vehicle when you leave it, etc. OSU even revised policy to make this clear after the whole Students for Concealed Carry law suit thing.WhyNot wrote:Ooops, and the topic dejoiur is, out a-walking around. As is, outside a vehicleyou cannot legally carry concealed handguns onto OSU or other college/university property, unless they specifically allow it. Open carry, however, is perfectly legal...
I M referencing driving onto the OSU campus, securing my CHL permitted pistol in my vehicle in XYZ fashion and entering a building
I thought that was legit; therefore, the signs posted as an all-encompassing ''ban'' would be NOT legit
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OK thnx!
So..basically..the signs are NOT LEGIT as they state ''nothing beyond this point'' or verbage like that.
Next time I go to visit I will take pictures.
Early into next month is soonest
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Hope BGSU dude is cleared, and, the NEWZ MEDIA clears him as well. Mimes, mocking birds, parrots that they are
So..basically..the signs are NOT LEGIT as they state ''nothing beyond this point'' or verbage like that.
Next time I go to visit I will take pictures.
Early into next month is soonest
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Hope BGSU dude is cleared, and, the NEWZ MEDIA clears him as well. Mimes, mocking birds, parrots that they are
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Re: Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
No, the signs are legit, but there is a specific exception in the law for those with a CHL who are storing or transporting their handgun in a locked vehicle. If you exit the vehicle with a concealed handgun and are not immediately in the process of locking the handgun in the trunk, you are in violation of the law.WhyNot wrote:OK thnx!
So..basically..the signs are NOT LEGIT as they state ''nothing beyond this point'' or verbage like that.
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Some 'crazy' OCers were on campus yesterday: http://bgindependentmedia.org/rogers-re ... strations/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Twitter/Facebook/comment reactions to their presence has been a combination of strong, varied, and uninformed.
Sending mixed messages and putting out inaccurate or incomplete suppositions/information seems to be a specialty of BGSU - stir into that brew the narrative engineer's (which some people inaccurately call 'journalists') version of events and one doesn't know up from down.
I've received a copy of the police report, and have requested additional information as it becomes available - but I don't know how to post such things here. Help would be appreciated in that vein.
The Twitter/Facebook/comment reactions to their presence has been a combination of strong, varied, and uninformed.
Sending mixed messages and putting out inaccurate or incomplete suppositions/information seems to be a specialty of BGSU - stir into that brew the narrative engineer's (which some people inaccurately call 'journalists') version of events and one doesn't know up from down.
I've received a copy of the police report, and have requested additional information as it becomes available - but I don't know how to post such things here. Help would be appreciated in that vein.
Yes, I do believe in open carry. An openly armed man is clear in his intentions. Concealed carriers are sneaks and skulkers and elitist, boot licking, political contribution making, running dog lackies of The Man. <wink> (thx grumpycoconut - OpenCarry.org)
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Re: Open Carry Dude at BGSU charged with Inciting Panic
If you have a printer that can scan, you could get a pdf on this webpage. I think.
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The following is a list of children's books that didn't quite make it to the printing press...
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2. Daddy Drinks Because You Cry
3. You Were An Accident
4. Bi-Curious George
bruh bruh is slang for "complete and total moron" -sodbuster95
The following is a list of children's books that didn't quite make it to the printing press...
1. What Is That Dog Doing to That Other Dog?
2. Daddy Drinks Because You Cry
3. You Were An Accident
4. Bi-Curious George
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Here is the pull quote IMO:BB62 wrote:Some 'crazy' OCers were on campus yesterday: http://bgindependentmedia.org/rogers-re ... strations/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nice of BRAVE group to bring up people who were not allowed to defend themselves with firearms.“While Ohio may be an open carry state, and it may be legal, this doesn’t mean that we need to standby and say nothing. Lest we forget, slavery and apartheid were legal as was/is state sanctioned violence. We will not stay silent. These laws are unjust and threaten our psychological and physical safety.”