any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

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any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby Bombarde32 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:26 pm

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Just curious: did anyone open carry to a Black Friday sale? (Other than at a gun store!) Or, are OFCC members prudent enough to avoid such madness? I'm sure the media would be salivating at the sight of armed individuals lined up outside Best Buy!
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby Stryker74 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:16 pm

I fall in that prudent category - I avoid Black Friday, regardless of any perceived deal.
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby Janae » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:28 pm

I went to WalMart for some odds and ends, but I skipped the busy times. the Salvation Army lady I talked to going in finally noticed my gun when I was leaving. She said "NOW, I'm scared of you!" (I was holding Connor and Ashtyn was walking beside me) I told her she had nothing to be afraid of unless she meant my kids harm. She shut up.
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby techguy85 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:18 am

I don't usually open carry, and definitely wouldn't if I was headed to a crowded event. You have to let too many people get way too close in my opinion.
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby yogidave » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:33 am

^^^
I dont like people in my "bubble", I would rather wait for cyber monday.
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby WayneB » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:44 am

Janae wrote:I went to WalMart for some odds and ends, but I skipped the busy times. the Salvation Army lady I talked to going in finally noticed my gun when I was leaving. She said "NOW, I'm scared of you!" (I was holding Connor and Ashtyn was walking beside me) I told her she had nothing to be afraid of unless she meant my kids harm. She shut up.

When I read such statements I then wonder what the state of mind was of the person making the comment.

Was she making a joke? (Smiling at me she said "now I'm scared of you") or was she really scared? (backing away from me and cowering in the corner she said "now I'm scared of you").

If the former, perhaps just a bad joke. Perhaps better to have said "now I feel safer - thanks for caring.". If the latter, then what I really don't understand is how the person makes the logical jump from all is well, to "holy smokes, this guy, that's out shopping with his little kids and around all of these people that haven't been shot yet, is carrying <gasp> a weapon in its holster and now I'm really scared of what he might do". And further, if you really WERE scared of what he might do, why would you smart off or antagonize him?? Logic failure.
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby Brian D. » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:53 am

WayneB wrote:
Janae wrote:I went to WalMart for some odds and ends, but I skipped the busy times. the Salvation Army lady I talked to going in finally noticed my gun when I was leaving. She said "NOW, I'm scared of you!" (I was holding Connor and Ashtyn was walking beside me) I told her she had nothing to be afraid of unless she meant my kids harm. She shut up.

When I read such statements I then wonder what the state of mind was of the person making the comment.


Wayne, it's taken me years to categorize such folks, and they don't all fall neatly into my parameters, but...

There seems to be a type of person who feels a need to verbalize about everything around them. Been trying to think of a catchy name but for now I think of the 'You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle' quote from Groucho Marx. One of my co-workers has this affliction to perhaps the worst degree I've ever witnessed. My responses to him are often just a head shake or nod (if neccessary), at other times I just leave the room without speaking.
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:44 am

I might call them "un-familiars".

As a professional smart-azz, I have to believe this type of comment is meant good-heartedly (unless they start actively ducking for cover), but because they have no familiarity with guns or gun owners, they do not understand what we might consider "bad taste".

"Have you shot anyone lately?" is a comment I got several years ago.

I REALLY wanted to say, "No, but I can put you at the front of the line!"

What I did say was, "No, but I haven't been attacked lately."

What I SHOULD have said is, "Oh, I don't joke about things like that." But I didn't and I won't. Why?

It would completely kill any chance of an open conversation with that person. They would either think you humorless, or they would feel shamed. Either way, they would probably leave you alone. Sometimes that is the desired goal, but you ain't gonna win no hearts and minds that way.

For the "NOW I'm scared of you" comment?

I may have said something like:

"You should be scared of the bad guys, not me."

And then you hope she retorts, "How do I know you're not a bad guy?"

To which you can reply, "Because I'm not pointing my gun in your face, idiot!"

Feel free to replace "idiot" with "Sir" or "Ma'am" if you must.

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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby Aesinsp » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:33 am

MWSY - You seem to have though through the interaction with others in a constructive manner - kudos!
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:09 pm

Aesinsp wrote:MWSY - You seem to have though through the interaction with others in a constructive manner - kudos!


Thanks. I have to.

If I don't think about what I'm going to say, I get punched in the face...a lot. :twisted:
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Re: any open carriers to Black Friday sales?

Postby dlgeorge » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:44 pm

Similar instance happened to me at the "Fresh food market" at Westgate in Toledo. I was standing at the deli waiting to be waited on, and another customer who was also waiting said jokingly, "I was gonna cut in front of you till I saw THAT", pointing to my gun. We both smiled and I said, "you have nothing to worry about". We talked a little bit about open carry, but no issue was made of it at all.

PS. he did let me go first though! lol.
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