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Veterans Affairs denying gun rights

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I just heard on Tom Greshams Gun Talk radio show that the VA is reporting veterans with PTSD to the FBI as prohibited persons. As a veteran in that exact position you can understand how that concerns me. Can anybody verify, before my next attempted gun purchase?
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glad I have never and will never claim a PTSD file with the VA. I have also read the government say that veterans, or those that have seen combat are a threat to national security.... irritates me to know end.
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I have a friend that served in the Marines who is suffering from PTSD but refuses to seek help for this very reason. He has many military friends who also could use treatment but don't want to be branded like this.
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Exact reason under the current climate I can see people not seeking help for anxiety, depression, sleep disorders or anything however slight this administration could construe as threats to society and not permitting gun ownership.
Pilots have dealt with this for years when it comes to getting their medical cert renewed.
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I heard Gresham say the same thing, and I've heard/read plenty of other people make the same claim. Ive not seen any EVIDENCE that it is factual though. I work at a VA and I've asked 2 separate psychiatric social workers about it and neither had a clue what I was talking about. I don't know if its accurate or not but until I see proof, Im not going to keep spreading it.

Now, I know some veterans are labeled with a "financially incompetent" tag and I believe that goes to the NCIS check system. The dozen or so veterans that I have personal knowledge of having this tag were all otherwise incompetent as well and the tag was for their benefit. None of us would disagree that these particular citizens (the ones I have personal knowledge of) need to be kept as far away from a firearm as possible. My question is, where is the policy or data showing that a diagnoses of PTSD prevents someone from buying a firearm. Im not buying it until I see proof.
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tbrew85 wrote:I heard Gresham say the same thing, and I've heard/read plenty of other people make the same claim. Ive not seen any EVIDENCE that it is factual though. I work at a VA and I've asked 2 separate psychiatric social workers about it and neither had a clue what I was talking about. I don't know if its accurate or not but until I see proof, Im not going to keep spreading it.
I have also found this to be the case. There are a lot of people "reporting" that the VA is doing this, but none can put forth any actual evidence of it happening.

As an attorney involved in defending veteran's rights, the allegation concerns me greatly. As a vet, the allegation downright angers me. I also know veteran's that have chosen to either forgo treatment or seek it out on their own dime to avoid this circumstance. That is absolutely not how it should be.

Nevertheless, I would like to see some substantive evidence before I go marching with pitchforks and torches (which I would absolutely do). To date, that simply hasn't happened.
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Losing your rights OUGHT to require a court action, , , ,
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Chuck wrote:Losing your rights OUGHT to require a court action, , , ,
Absolutely agree with this.
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sodbuster95 wrote:
tbrew85 wrote:I heard Gresham say the same thing, and I've heard/read plenty of other people make the same claim. Ive not seen any EVIDENCE that it is factual though. I work at a VA and I've asked 2 separate psychiatric social workers about it and neither had a clue what I was talking about. I don't know if its accurate or not but until I see proof, Im not going to keep spreading it.
I have also found this to be the case. There are a lot of people "reporting" that the VA is doing this, but none can put forth any actual evidence of it happening.

As an attorney involved in defending veteran's rights, the allegation concerns me greatly. As a vet, the allegation downright angers me. I also know veteran's that have chosen to either forgo treatment or seek it out on their own dime to avoid this circumstance. That is absolutely not how it should be.

Nevertheless, I would like to see some substantive evidence before I go marching with pitchforks and torches (which I would absolutely do). To date, that simply hasn't happened.
If I recall correctly, some of this arises from a letter sent to disability applicants. It seemed to be applicable only if the applicant was seeking full disability for PTDS.

If so, it's obviously about money. They are essentially saying, "If it's bad enough that we have to pay you full disability, maybe you shouldn't have any guns."
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I sure hope so. I would think I would have received a letter by now. As always if the paper work isn't done, it didn't happen.
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No evidence this is true. None.

There have been cases where persons applying to have money paid by the Feds to others to compensate them for managing the applicant's affairs, that is, filing as mentally incompetent, have had firearm rights limited.

If you want to have a gun, don't claim to be mentally incompetent in order to have your wife paid money to manage your affairs.

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