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Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:34 pm
by Randymp
I have looked for information concerning concealed carry in a polling place and I have not found anything that forbids it. The only information I found was it is illegal for a poll worker to carry a firearm while working. My voting place is at a KC hall and is not a CPZ. I have asked a member of the KC if the elections board pays rent for the building and the answer is no, they do pay a cleaning fee. So what are you’re thoughts on carrying concealed in this polling place?

Re: Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:59 pm
by JustaShooter
I'd want to see the agreement. There is a reasonable chance the agreement is actually a lease with the only payment a cleaning fee. If so, then as I understand it, it becomes a government facility for the term of the lease (election day) and would be a no-carry zone.

Re: Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:34 pm
by scottb
Or get an absentee ballot and avoid the long lines.

Re: Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:16 am
by WY_Not
Ours is in a local church so kind of a moot point.

And it is amazing how a 30 second prayer at the beginning of a sporting event is a HUGE violation of the separation of church and state principle but spend the entire day in a church voting an not a peep. :wink:

Re: Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:47 pm
by JustaShooter
I'm a member and currently a trustee of a church that is used as a polling place, and trust me, there are more than just peeps about the separation of church and state.

The worst case was when prior to a recent election the county tried to have us cover or remove any religious symbols or references from the inside of the church's main entrance, hallway, and fellowship hall where the polling would actually take place. Now, keep in mind, as you would expect the entrance to the church has a number of such items, and the hallway has perhaps 4 dozen permanently attached frames with displays from missionaries around the world, Bible passages, images, or the like, and the fellowship hall was recently decorated for a new theme for our youth program. Obviously, we declined their request. During an on-site visit the day before the election by reps from the county board of elections *they actually began to take them down* without permission. We stopped them. They insisted that we comply with their demand. We again declined and suggested they might want to look for another polling place if they had a problem. They finally acquiesced when they realized we would literally shut down the polling place rather than comply.

There are also regular complaints from voters. We ignore them, or thank them for their feedback and wish them well, depending on their demeanor.

Re: Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:17 pm
by WY_Not
Wow! :shock: Talk about some seriously RUDE behavior on their part. They come to your house, want to use your facilities, and expect you to comply with their nonsense?!?! Just wow. You have more patience with them than I would have.

Honestly have never heard that before. All you really hear about is someone complaining about a brief prayer before a sporting event, or a statue that is on public property (with no issues in the decades prior).
JustaShooter wrote:I'm a member and currently a trustee of a church that is used as a polling place, and trust me, there are more than just peeps about the separation of church and state.

The worst case was when prior to a recent election the county tried to have us cover or remove any religious symbols or references from the inside of the church's main entrance, hallway, and fellowship hall where the polling would actually take place. Now, keep in mind, as you would expect the entrance to the church has a number of such items, and the hallway has perhaps 4 dozen permanently attached frames with displays from missionaries around the world, Bible passages, images, or the like, and the fellowship hall was recently decorated for a new theme for our youth program. Obviously, we declined their request. During an on-site visit the day before the election by reps from the county board of elections *they actually began to take them down* without permission. We stopped them. They insisted that we comply with their demand. We again declined and suggested they might want to look for another polling place if they had a problem. They finally acquiesced when they realized we would literally shut down the polling place rather than comply.

There are also regular complaints from voters. We ignore them, or thank them for their feedback and wish them well, depending on their demeanor.

Re: Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:04 pm
by steves 50de
JustaShooter wrote:I'm a member and currently a trustee of a church that is used as a polling place, and trust me, there are more than just peeps about the separation of church and state.

The worst case was when prior to a recent election the county tried to have us cover or remove any religious symbols or references from the inside of the church's main entrance, hallway, and fellowship hall where the polling would actually take place. Now, keep in mind, as you would expect the entrance to the church has a number of such items, and the hallway has perhaps 4 dozen permanently attached frames with displays from missionaries around the world, Bible passages, images, or the like, and the fellowship hall was recently decorated for a new theme for our youth program. Obviously, we declined their request. During an on-site visit the day before the election by reps from the county board of elections *they actually began to take them down* without permission. We stopped them. They insisted that we comply with their demand. We again declined and suggested they might want to look for another polling place if they had a problem. They finally acquiesced when they realized we would literally shut down the polling place rather than comply.

There are also regular complaints from voters. We ignore them, or thank them for their feedback and wish them well, depending on their demeanor.
It may be time to tell the ungrateful renters to look elsewhere. :twisted:

Re: Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:01 am
by Brian D.
steves 50de wrote:
JustaShooter wrote:I'm a member and currently a trustee of a church that is used as a polling place, and trust me, there are more than just peeps about the separation of church and state.

The worst case was when prior to a recent election the county tried to have us cover or remove any religious symbols or references from the inside of the church's main entrance, hallway, and fellowship hall where the polling would actually take place. Now, keep in mind, as you would expect the entrance to the church has a number of such items, and the hallway has perhaps 4 dozen permanently attached frames with displays from missionaries around the world, Bible passages, images, or the like, and the fellowship hall was recently decorated for a new theme for our youth program. Obviously, we declined their request. During an on-site visit the day before the election by reps from the county board of elections *they actually began to take them down* without permission. We stopped them. They insisted that we comply with their demand. We again declined and suggested they might want to look for another polling place if they had a problem. They finally acquiesced when they realized we would literally shut down the polling place rather than comply.

There are also regular complaints from voters. We ignore them, or thank them for their feedback and wish them well, depending on their demeanor.
It may be time to tell the ungrateful renters to look elsewhere. :twisted:
"No room at the inn."

Re: Polling places concealed carry

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:07 am
by JustaShooter
steves 50de wrote:
JustaShooter wrote:I'm a member and currently a trustee of a church that is used as a polling place, and trust me, there are more than just peeps about the separation of church and state.

The worst case was when prior to a recent election the county tried to have us cover or remove any religious symbols or references from the inside of the church's main entrance, hallway, and fellowship hall where the polling would actually take place. Now, keep in mind, as you would expect the entrance to the church has a number of such items, and the hallway has perhaps 4 dozen permanently attached frames with displays from missionaries around the world, Bible passages, images, or the like, and the fellowship hall was recently decorated for a new theme for our youth program. Obviously, we declined their request. During an on-site visit the day before the election by reps from the county board of elections *they actually began to take them down* without permission. We stopped them. They insisted that we comply with their demand. We again declined and suggested they might want to look for another polling place if they had a problem. They finally acquiesced when they realized we would literally shut down the polling place rather than comply.

There are also regular complaints from voters. We ignore them, or thank them for their feedback and wish them well, depending on their demeanor.
It may be time to tell the ungrateful renters to look elsewhere. :twisted:
Trust me, we were >< that close. This happened during the 2016 General Election, and our Pastor decided to see what happened for the next election - and since I haven't heard anything about how the primary went, I'm assuming his feedback to the county caused them to make sure things were handled better this time.