CPZ sign - force of law ?

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CPZ sign - force of law ?

Postby docachna » Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:18 pm

Been away from Ohio for too long, and my memory isn't infallible. Coming back up in a week, and I want to make sure I'm on solid ground.

"No Guns" signs - do they have the force of law in OH ? If I'm asked to leave, I'll certainly do that, but my big concern is if I'm forced to display or use the weapon inside a CPZ, and what happens then. Is that an automatic charge after LE shows up for ignoring the sign (trespass, etc.), or must I first be requested to leave ?

(I know you STILL haven't gotten rid of that damned notification statute, so I won't even bother asking about that ! Nice being in TN where notification has long been a thing of the past. Matter of fact, I don't know that it's EVER been the law here...)
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Re: CPZ sign - force of law ?

Postby JustaShooter » Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:52 pm

"No Guns" signs have the force of law in Ohio. You are guilty of Criminal Trespass if you knowingly carry past a conspicuously posted sign, even without being asked to leave. And, "knowingly" doesn't give you a pass to turn a blind eye to signage - if a reasonable person would have seen it, you are expected to as well.

As to being charged if you have to display or use the handgun, well, that's a different matter entirely. It wouldn't be automatic, but I could see some LEOs doing so - but, likely only at the direction of the owner or manager in most cases though. And that depends on the owner and/or manager.
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Re: CPZ sign - force of law ?

Postby Brian D. » Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:29 pm

JustaShooter explained it accurately. This part of the Ohio Revised Code contains weasel wording, wiggle room, and gray area. So does the case law when folks get into such situations.
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Re: CPZ sign - force of law ?

Postby docachna » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:19 pm

Brian D. wrote:JustaShooter explained it accurately. This part of the Ohio Revised Code contains weasel wording, wiggle room, and gray area. So does the case law when folks get into such situations.


That's about what I was dimly remembering, but I don't like being uncertain. Thx to all.
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