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Are we still required to notified as soon as the officer comes to the window?
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charliej47 wrote:Are we still required to notified as soon as the officer comes to the window?
If you're carrying.
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And, if you have a license.
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What if I'm carrying a Hi Point ? :)
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carmen fovozzo wrote:What if I'm carrying a Hi Point ? :)
Are you implying that should be treated like any other blunt object, piece of wood, fireplace poker? :wink:
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pirateguy191 wrote:And, if you have a license.
If have a loaded firearm in the vehicle and you have a License you must notify.

If you have a License but no loaded firearm in the vehicle you do not have to notify.


If you have a loaded firearm in the vehicle and do NOT have a license you are not required to notify.


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willbird wrote:
pirateguy191 wrote:And, if you have a license.
If have a loaded firearm in the vehicle and you have a License you must notify.

If you have a License but no loaded firearm in the vehicle you do not have to notify.


If you have a loaded firearm in the vehicle and do NOT have a license you are not required to notify.


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......regarding that third "If" .

If your carrying a "loaded" firearm, you had better have that lic on you, because you are still required to notify, unless I'm wrong.

Now if your a felon, and carrying a loaded gun, you don't....go figure !
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3FULLMAGS+1 wrote:Now if your a felon, and carrying a loaded gun, you don't....go figure !
I believe that was Willbird's point.
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3FULLMAGS+1 wrote:
willbird wrote:
pirateguy191 wrote:And, if you have a license.
If have a loaded firearm in the vehicle and you have a License you must notify.

If you have a License but no loaded firearm in the vehicle you do not have to notify.


If you have a loaded firearm in the vehicle and do NOT have a license you are not required to notify.


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......regarding that third "If" .

If your carrying a "loaded" firearm, you had better have that lic on you, because you are still required to notify, unless I'm wrong.

Now if your a felon, and carrying a loaded gun, you don't....go figure !
The notification requirement ONLY applies to licensed individuals. Also all of the requirements in BOLD only apply to licensed carriers.

2923.126 Duties of licensed individual.

If a licensee is the driver or an occupant of a motor vehicle that is stopped as the result of a traffic stop or a stop for another law enforcement purpose and if the licensee is transporting or has a loaded handgun in the motor vehicle at that time, the licensee shall promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the vehicle while stopped that the licensee has been issued a concealed handgun license and that the licensee currently possesses or has a loaded handgun; the licensee shall not knowingly disregard or fail to comply with lawful orders of a law enforcement officer given while the motor vehicle is stopped, knowingly fail to remain in the motor vehicle while stopped, or knowingly fail to keep the licensee's hands in plain sight after any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves, unless directed otherwise by a law enforcement officer; and the licensee shall not knowingly have contact with the loaded handgun by touching it with the licensee's hands or fingers, in any manner in violation of division (E) of section 2923.16 of the Revised Code, after any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves. Additionally, if a licensee is the driver or an occupant of a commercial motor vehicle that is stopped by an employee of the motor carrier enforcement unit for the purposes defined in section 5503.34 of the Revised Code and if the licensee is transporting or has a loaded handgun in the commercial motor vehicle at that time, the licensee shall promptly inform the employee of the unit who approaches the vehicle while stopped that the licensee has been issued a concealed handgun license and that the licensee currently possesses or has a loaded handgun.

If a licensee is stopped for a law enforcement purpose and if the licensee is carrying a concealed handgun at the time the officer approaches, the licensee shall promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the licensee while stopped that the licensee has been issued a concealed handgun license and that the licensee currently is carrying a concealed handgun; the licensee shall not knowingly disregard or fail to comply with lawful orders of a law enforcement officer given while the licensee is stopped or knowingly fail to keep the licensee's hands in plain sight after any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves, unless directed otherwise by a law enforcement officer; and the licensee shall not knowingly remove, attempt to remove, grasp, or hold the loaded handgun or knowingly have contact with the loaded handgun by touching it with the licensee's hands or fingers, in any manner in violation of division (B) of section 2923.12 of the Revised Code, after any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves.
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The reason that illegal carriers are not required to notify is the fifth amendment IMHO.

But legal carriers are required to notify even if the officer discovered that the legal carrier was violating the CCW laws somehow .....say the carrier was carrying a pistol which had a suppressor attached...due to ignorance of the law and not knowing that they were committing an illegal act.


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any tips on how to notify when you are an occupant in the rear seat passenger side, or in the third row of a minivan/SUV?
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Tip for that scenario: start your communication with the driver as soon as possible so that the driver can let the officer know immediately that you need to inform.

It's a crap law, don't leave even a moment for your "duty" to be misinterpreted. It has happened in the past.

Don't worry about being rude, annoying the officer or upsetting any friends, it's about keeping you from getting a crap charge.
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It amazes me that as of 2018 Ohio is even more restrictive on this particular issue for concealed carry license holders than anti gun states like New York, Maryland, or even New Jersey. :roll:
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M-Quigley wrote:It amazes me that as of 2018 Ohio is even more restrictive on this particular issue for concealed carry license holders than anti gun states like New York, Maryland, or even New Jersey. :roll:
Well, the chances of a LEO pulling over one of the dozen or so legal carriers is pretty low, so...
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M-Quigley wrote:It amazes me that as of 2018 Ohio is even more restrictive on this particular issue for concealed carry license holders than anti gun states like New York, Maryland, or even New Jersey. :roll:
The OSHP was used by a former Governor to damage any CCW legislation that was passed. The Ohio pro CCW and RKBA orgs have done a fine job amending the original law into something that has gotten better every year. Sadly that is how things get done in Ohio.

The pro weed folks were too high and or stupid to recognize that and pass the ballot initiative that was on the table.

The very first Ohio CCW law really stunk for us CCW holders, but something got passed and people set up classes and people got CCW...and it got better.

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