Citadel Wart/Boss/Yadayada Hog Differences?

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Citadel Wart/Boss/Yadayada Hog Differences?

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Given the almost total unavailability of quality U.S. semi-auto defensive shotguns (and my unwillingness to wrench on my '70s vintage Ithaca 37), I've been looking at the Citadel semi-auto shotguns.

The problem arises with:
  • Confusion between the names/versions of the various conventional shotguns (Warthog, Boss Hog, ATAC, etc., etc., etc.).
  • Important design changes due to an out of battery safety issue spotlighted on YouTube.
Rural King has a great deal on these guns, but I was looking for (I thought) a "Warthog". Citadel's catalog only shows the "Boss Hog", and half of the online catalog entries for various stores show no "Hog" name AT ALL.

Can anybody clear up the confusion so that I can end up with what I want (and not something with inadequate locking lug engagement)?
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The boss is an AR15 platform,.... the wart hog is standard looking shotgun with a pistol grip. Don't know anything about bolts or the quality of these guns. Have you looked at the kel tec KSG pump twin feed tubes holds 15 rounds. I have seen a few at the last gun show but,.... like everything else they want an arm and a leg for it.
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steves 50de wrote:The boss is an AR15 platform,.... the wart hog is standard looking shotgun with a pistol grip. Don't know anything about bolts or the quality of these guns. Have you looked at the kel tec KSG pump twin feed tubes holds 15 rounds. I have seen a few at the last gun show but,.... like everything else they want an arm and a leg for it.
Actually, the Boss Hog is a conventionally stocked semi-auto shotgun, unrelated to the AR.

There are both conventionally and pistol grip stocked versions of the Warthog.

I'm not looking for a pump gun, just a semi-auto, either a Mossberg or the Citadel.
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Good luck I hope you can find something. What is the max you want to spend. :?:
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steves 50de wrote:Good luck I hope you can find something. What is the max you want to spend. :?:
I was willing to pay market price for a Mossberg 930 until I discovered they were unobtanium and started reading about the Boss/Wart Hogs.

Whatever Citadel they're selling at Rural King is going for $199. Add in the cost of a Carlson's Benelli Nova/Supernova magazine extension AND a dot sight and it still doesn't come close to the price of a Mossberg, even if you could find one.
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steves 50de wrote:Good luck I hope you can find something. What is the max you want to spend. :?:
I was willing to pay market price for a Mossberg 930 until I discovered they were unobtanium and started reading about the Boss/Wart Hogs.

Whatever Citadel they're selling at Rural King is going for $199. Add in the cost of a Carlson's Benelli Nova/Supernova magazine extension AND a dot sight and it still doesn't come close to the price of a Mossberg, even if you could find one.
I have 930spx brand new never fired bought it at dick's in I think 2008,.... before they turned on us. It's my only semi auto defense shotgun so I have to hang on to it.
I think I paid like 630 for it. I should at least test fire the dam thing. :lol:
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steves 50de wrote:I have 930spx brand new never fired bought it at dick's in I think 2008,.... before they turned on us.
Their Soviet style customer "service" is so tragically awful, I'm surprised they paid attention to you long enough to sell it to you.
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The Stoger M3000 may be another option. They are pretty popular in 3 gun, and have a fairly good rep.
Probably have to get it online though.
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I was at Cabela's today to pick up a Winchester marine 12 Ga that I ordered on line.
They have a large section of shotguns including Stoeger,.... it may be worth checking out Deano. Also no nic's check with a CHL.
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steves 50de wrote:I was at Cabela's today to pick up a Winchester marine 12 Ga that I ordered on line.
They have a large section of shotguns including Stoeger,.... it may be worth checking out Deano. Also no nic's check with a CHL.
I've been regularly checking out their online catalog and as of a day or two ago, they didn't have anything I wanted or could afford. They've got a lot of hunting shotguns. Unfortunately, I'm looking for a semi-auto self-defense shotgun. I suppose it's possible that there's a wide divergence between what they have in Avon vs. what's shown online.
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Deano you may want to take a ride out to dunham's sporting goods at midway mall.
All the guns are on sale,... they have a semi auto 12 ga bull pup for 599 you may like
its very short.
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steves 50de wrote:Deano you may want to take a ride out to dunham's sporting goods at midway mall.
All the guns are on sale,... they have a semi auto 12 ga bull pup for 599 you may like
its very short.
I haven't actually been in Midway Mall since I bought my M1917 Enfield at Kresge's.

The next time I'll have to check them out the next time I'm out that way.
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I finally made it out to Rural King yesterday.

From what I could tell, the gun was the pre-modification version, since I could clearly see the locking lug in the ejection port, and it didn't seem to have a lot of engagement.

Since the price had gone up to $299.99, I didn't bother to ask to take it apart to confirm the revision level.

I guess I'll be sticking with my Ithaca 37DSPS, sans upgrades, for the foreseeable future.
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deanimator wrote:I finally made it out to Rural King yesterday.

From what I could tell, the gun was the pre-modification version, since I could clearly see the locking lug in the ejection port, and it didn't seem to have a lot of engagement.

Since the price had gone up to $299.99, I didn't bother to ask to take it apart to confirm the revision level.

I guess I'll be sticking with my Ithaca 37DSPS, sans upgrades, for the foreseeable future.
Let me know if you want to take a ride out to Dunham's with me to check out the semi auto shotguns. :wink:
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steves 50de wrote:
deanimator wrote:I finally made it out to Rural King yesterday.

From what I could tell, the gun was the pre-modification version, since I could clearly see the locking lug in the ejection port, and it didn't seem to have a lot of engagement.

Since the price had gone up to $299.99, I didn't bother to ask to take it apart to confirm the revision level.

I guess I'll be sticking with my Ithaca 37DSPS, sans upgrades, for the foreseeable future.
Let me know if you want to take a ride out to Dunham's with me to check out the semi auto shotguns. :wink:
Actually now, I'm looking into the SDS Imports AR-T02.

SDS appears to have a MUCH better reputation than Citadel. Their AKSA(?) gets great reviews, but I'm trying to get information on the AR-T02. It apparently takes Remington magazine tube extensions without modification.

Unfortunately, Dunham's doesn't appear to have them, at least not in stock.
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