Charged by vicious dog tonight

[Tweed Ring]

My residential neighborhood has no streetlights. When the weather was good, I used to walk around the block. I always carried a 3 C-Cell MagLight, on, in my back pocket for visibility. One evening, I was set upon by a Collie and a Cocker Spaniel. Both dogs were very aggressive. A Collie and a Cocker Spaniel - what are the odds?

The owner and his friends, who were gathered in his front yard thought this situation was very funny. I did not see the humor. Grabbed he MagLight and prepared to defend myself. Guy called out to me, laughing, asking if I was afraid of his dogs? Told him I was not going to let the dog bite me. Also said I afraid if I hit his Collie in the head with the flashlight, I might really hurt the dog. (I love dogs, but not so much that I was willing to be bitten by one.)

He sent his wife out to gather his pets and return them to the yard. She apologized, said her husband and his friends were being jerks. I agreed.

[Bama.45]

I think the part of the code that says if the dog is attacking live stock,exotic or domestic animals except a cat or another dog should be taken out.. Only police dogs can be protected from another dog attacking... That's BS.

I don't agree. Having grown up on a farm, stray dogs were shot on sight.

I think the point was totally missed.... Legally under the Ohio code you can't legally shoot a dog attacking your dog... But police CAN shoot a dog for attacking a police dog which is BS... If a dog is considered property then should should police dogs...Ohio code says it IS legal to shoot dogs harassing or attacking livestock... That has nothing to do with what I said was BS lol

[OhioPaints]

When walking a Dog, one should always carry a shotgun.....

Or just get a dog big enough to defend himself....and YOU!

We used to have a 120# Newfie (big, black, muscular, shaggy dog). I always wanted to take her for a walk in one of the less civilized neighborhoods. I'll bet I wouldn't have had any problems

[OhioPaints]

I think the part of the code that says if the dog is attacking live stock,exotic or domestic animals except a cat or another dog should be taken out.. Only police dogs can be protected from another dog attacking... That's BS.

I don't agree. Having grown up on a farm, stray dogs were shot on sight.

Oh heck, we usually end up rescuing those strays that show up at the farm Our vet even kidded us that he was telling people that our driveway was a good place to drop dogs off.

All that said, I too would shoot any dog chasing our horses although the horses can pretty well take care of themselves with the dogs.

[Tweed Ring]

K-9's operated by LEO's have a special place under Ohio law. Had an e/e engaged in a domestic violence situation who kicked the K-9. In turn, the dog did serious damage to him. He was charged with kicking the K-9 as a separate offense. He was, of course, a moron.

[Bama.45]

K-9's operated by LEO's have a special place under Ohio law. Had an e/e engaged in a domestic violence situation who kicked the K-9. In turn, the dog did serious damage to him. He was charged with kicking the K-9 as a separate offense. He was, of course, a moron.

Yeah but that's a double standard, if dogs count as property whether police or not the average citizen should be able to protect their dog as well from another dog attacking

[Tweed Ring]

K-9's operated by LEO's have a special place under Ohio law. Had an e/e engaged in a domestic violence situation who kicked the K-9. In turn, the dog did serious damage to him. He was charged with kicking the K-9 as a separate offense. He was, of course, a moron.

Yeah but that's a double standard, if dogs count as property whether police or not the average citizen should be able to protect their dog as well from another dog attacking

My friend, there are a number of double standards. I used to drink in a local cop bar. Cops tend to look out for other cops who have been drinking. Some county sheriffs, in smaller counties, look out for constituents, but raise revenue from out-of-towners. Some small town paddy rollers operate in the same manner.

[Tru-Heathen]

I think the point was totally missed.... Legally under the Ohio code you can't legally shoot a dog attacking your dog... But police CAN shoot a dog for attacking a police dog which is BS... If a dog is considered property then should should police dogs...Ohio code says it IS legal to shoot dogs harassing or attacking livestock... That has nothing to do with what I said was BS lol

Ok , I can see where your point could have been clearer.

I'm also highly unlikely to advocate shooting a Police dog .

[Bama.45]

I think the point was totally missed.... Legally under the Ohio code you can't legally shoot a dog attacking your dog... But police CAN shoot a dog for attacking a police dog which is BS... If a dog is considered property then should should police dogs...Ohio code says it IS legal to shoot dogs harassing or attacking livestock... That has nothing to do with what I said was BS lol

Ok , I can see where your point could have been clearer.

I'm also highly unlikely to advocate shooting a Police dog .

No I don't think it was clear enough if you think I am advocating shooting a police dog ..I think we as civilians should be able to protect our dogs from attack just like the cops can their K-9's, without legal repercussions. That's my point..I'm not advocating shooting any animal if it isn't a have to situation.

[Tru-Heathen]

I think the part of the code that says if the dog is attacking live stock,exotic or domestic animals except a cat or another dog should be taken out.. Only police dogs can be protected from another dog attacking... That's BS.

This is the part that I can't agree with, it would remove farmers ability to protect their livestock if it were "taken out". Now I see you didn't mean it in that way. This is the part of your post that could have been clearer IMO.

And the shooting of strays was a lot more prevalent in the 50's when I was young. A rescue dog back then was a St Bernard.

We are in agreement that it's not advisable to shoot a LEO K-9 .
I don't believe in shooting any animal "just because" ; if I did that Beagle/Lab mix of the neighbors would be on borrowed time </sarc>

[Jim-in-Toledo]

I think the part of the code that says if the dog is attacking live stock,exotic or domestic animals except a cat or another dog should be taken out.. Only police dogs can be protected from another dog attacking... That's BS.

This is the part that I can't agree with, it would remove farmers ability to protect their livestock if it were "taken out". Now I see you didn't mean it in that way. This is the part of your post that could have been clearer IMO.

And the shooting of strays was a lot more prevalent in the 50's when I was young. A rescue dog back then was a St Bernard.

We are in agreement that it's not advisable to shoot a LEO K-9 .
I don't believe in shooting any animal "just because" ; if I did that Beagle/Lab mix of the neighbors would be on borrowed time </sarc>

I believe the part that says:

except a cat or another dog

is what he wanted removed.

Question:
Why should ANY dog, police k9 or not, have free range to attack any other dog or cat they come in contact with, irregardless of any threat or danger that other cat or dog may be exhibiting at the time?

[Bama.45]

I think the part of the code that says if the dog is attacking live stock,exotic or domestic animals except a cat or another dog should be taken out.. Only police dogs can be protected from another dog attacking... That's BS.

This is the part that I can't agree with, it would remove farmers ability to protect their livestock if it were "taken out". Now I see you didn't mean it in that way. This is the part of your post that could have been clearer IMO.

And the shooting of strays was a lot more prevalent in the 50's when I was young. A rescue dog back then was a St Bernard.

We are in agreement that it's not advisable to shoot a LEO K-9 .
I don't believe in shooting any animal "just because" ; if I did that Beagle/Lab mix of the neighbors would be on borrowed time </sarc>

I believe the part that says:

except a cat or another dog

is what he wanted removed.

Question:
Why should ANY dog, police k9 or not, have free range to attack any other dog or cat they come in contact with, irregardless of any threat or danger that other cat or dog may be exhibiting at the time?

Yes Jim, that's what I want removed... I used to kill coyotes for farmers in Alabama.. I understand the whole livestock thing... I just think cats and dogs shouldn't be excluded if K-9's can be protected... I think it should be equal regardless of what purpose the dog serves.

[Tru-Heathen]

OK, even I'll agree with that !

[OhioPaints]

Isn't there an assumption that police K9 dogs are well trained and under control at all times? (Just like their handlers.)

[MrKitty]

Just glad it happened with me and not my wife (she walks the dog on that trail MUCH more that I do). Will be buying pepper spray for her to carry.

Wasp spray works at a greater distance.

I keep UDAP bear spray. =)