I guess the media likes to report on this now, seems like we hear a lot more stories now a days.
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Love how the media is really playing up that this animal was a wolf hybrid. Anything for ratings I suppose.
Sounds like a good shoot, legally at least.
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http://www.whiotv.com/news/news/crime-l ... ase/nYzc5/. That link should work a lil better.
I usually don't take the animals side I these stories but this one....... The officer should probably look before taking that blind leap of faith!
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Ugh. I really hate these stories. I'd ask what gave him the right, but it somehow ends up as a circular argument. In my opinion, private individuals really don't need to be owning wildlife (or any hybrid thereof). If the officer was able to scale the fence, then sadly the wolf wasn't properly contained. Take Wolf Park as an example, out in Battle Ground, IN. One of my favorite places. Proper wolf containment consists of two fences, covering from below digging depth to at least 7 or 8 feet high with an inward facing barbed overhang and covered in chicken wire. This is similar to what you'd see at the zoo.
At the same time, I have a dog that could be "mistaken" for a wolf by a less informed individual. He would most certainly approach any individual who came near, but that's just because he's very curious and confident. I'd be devastated if my dog were to be shot by a cop trespassing in my yard. No amount of money can undo such an act.
At the same time, I have a dog that could be "mistaken" for a wolf by a less informed individual. He would most certainly approach any individual who came near, but that's just because he's very curious and confident. I'd be devastated if my dog were to be shot by a cop trespassing in my yard. No amount of money can undo such an act.
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Is there anything the home owner can do now?? Since the Police were trespassing on the property...... They ought to feel lucky that the home owner didn't shoot the cops...............
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He was in pursuit of someone with outstanding warrants who was running from him. The criminal is the one who fled onto the property (where he was found). The police officer had every right to be there.Curzyk wrote:... I'd ask what gave him the right, but it somehow ends up as a circular argument.
Obviously you didn't watch the video. It was a 3 ft chain link fence. The animal could have cleared that fence easily.Curzyk wrote:If the officer was able to scale the fence, then sadly the wolf wasn't properly contained. ...
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Just to pick a nit, and because it's way too easy to fall into the trap of using their words...BobK wrote:The police officer had every right to be there.
The officer might have had the power and/or the authority to be there, but he didn't have the right to be on someone else's property without their express permission.
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To nit-pick back, the police have the legal right to pursue a feeling suspect. It isn't just power or authority, there is legal justification.jabeatty wrote:Just to pick a nit, and because it's way too easy to fall into the trap of using their words...BobK wrote:The police officer had every right to be there.
The officer might have had the power and/or the authority to be there, but he didn't have the right to be on someone else's property without their express permission.
Now if one wants to discuss the moral right or "natural law", that is a different conversation.
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Maybe is it just me, but aren't the two of you saying the same thing?BobK wrote:Obviously you didn't watch the video. It was a 3 ft chain link fence. The animal could have cleared that fence easily.Curzyk wrote:If the officer was able to scale the fence, then sadly the wolf wasn't properly contained. ...
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Thanks, but I wasn't actually asking.. I understand the concept of pursuit.BobK wrote:He was in pursuit of someone with outstanding warrants who was running from him. The criminal is the one who fled onto the property (where he was found). The police officer had every right to be there.Curzyk wrote:... I'd ask what gave him the right, but it somehow ends up as a circular argument.
Ahh, there was a video? I have JavaScript turned off by default and didn't see where a player wanted to load. Honestly it wasn't necessary as my statement stands. How short the fence was is sorta irrelevant because as I said, if the officer could get over it, it was inadequate for proper containment of a wolf or hybrid.BobK wrote:Obviously you didn't watch the video. It was a 3 ft chain link fence. The animal could have cleared that fence easily.Curzyk wrote:If the officer was able to scale the fence, then sadly the wolf wasn't properly contained. ...
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Poor Wolf.. My Hybrid loved people. The "Big Bad Wolf" moniker was bull and certainly didn't apply to mine. Usually if something scary was going on he would be the first to hide, confrontation is not natural for wolves. Maybe if they are sick,injured, or starving. Lobo only ever growled at one guy in the 17 years he was my pal, and that guy tried to get into our house in Cleveland, but even then Lobo was behind my wife, growling at the person that was making her uncomfortable. It was enough that the guy decided to not enter.
Although the officer may have been there legally in the course of his duties, It still bites that they are making the critter out to be bad just because it was part wolf. all dogs are territorial to some extent, many would have charged the officer barking and growling whatever their breed.
This is just another case of the Media saying "all guns are bad". "all rottweilers are vicious", "All PitBulls are baby killers", "all Wolf-hybrids are vicious untamed wild animals". I call BS on the MSM for yet another overinflated story.
Although the officer may have been there legally in the course of his duties, It still bites that they are making the critter out to be bad just because it was part wolf. all dogs are territorial to some extent, many would have charged the officer barking and growling whatever their breed.
This is just another case of the Media saying "all guns are bad". "all rottweilers are vicious", "All PitBulls are baby killers", "all Wolf-hybrids are vicious untamed wild animals". I call BS on the MSM for yet another overinflated story.
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Thanks TJW.TJW815 wrote:http://www.whiotv.com/news/news/crime-l ... ase/nYzc5/. That link should work a lil better.
I usually don't take the animals side I these stories but this one....... The officer should probably look before taking that blind leap of faith!
I agree. Legally the officer was in the right as he was in pursuit. But he jumps a random fence without permission then he shoots their dog its just messed up. The owner didn't have a chance to get the dog out of the way before the officer barges onto his property.
Now do I expect the officer to stop his hot pursuit to ask permission from the property owner to enter the property? No. Hot pursuit laws are there for a reason but they have their consequences and collateral damage. The city should make things right though for their agents destruction of private property.
Exactly.Bruenor wrote:This is just another case of the Media saying "all guns are bad". "all rottweilers are vicious", "All PitBulls are baby killers", "all Wolf-hybrids are vicious untamed wild animals". I call BS on the MSM for yet another overinflated story.
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Come on to you're property and destroy you're personal property. Pretty typical and its garbage. I know a person in Pennsylvania who has a wolf dog. It comes up and licks you, its very sweet animal. Not all dogs, that is what it is is a dog have the exact same temperament.
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