Cleveland's Weapons Laws

[AlanM]

The Westlake thread caused me to do a search of Cleveland's Codes.
How much of this is invalid under 9.68?

Chapter 628 — Possession or Sale of Assault Weapons Prohibited
The definitions are most interesting.
20 round mag. limit.
Calico .22 illegal under this. As is, of course, the 9mm Calico.

Chapter 627 — Weapons and Explosives
Definition of "automatic weapon" less stringent than "assault weapon" in 628.
627.10 Possessing Certain Weapons at or About Public Places ---
627.12 Voluntary Disposition of Handguns -- Get rid of your crime guns here
627.14 Sale of Long Bladed Pocket Knives -- Pocket knife registration

627.16 Unlawful Display of Weapons
(a) No person, firm or corporation shall exhibit for sale in showcases or show windows any revolvers, daggers, stilettoes, brass or iron knuckles and billies, or display any signs, posters, cartoons or display cards, suggesting the sale of such weapons.
(b) Whoever violates this section is guilty of unlawful display of weapons, a misdemeanor of the first degree.
(Ord. No. 1020-76. Passed 6-14-76, eff. 6-18-76)

Why there are no gun shops in Cleveland.

627.22 Law Enforcement Officers Possessing or Using Nonissued Firearms on Duty
Question - Does the CPD issue BUGS???

This one is an interesting read:

630.01 Criminal Activity Nuisances Declared

(a) Activities, as defined in any of the following Codified Ordinances, occurring on properties in the City, and engaged in by an owner, occupant or invitee of the owner or occupant of the property, are declared to be nuisance activities. To be a nuisance activity, a criminal conviction is not necessary. There must be probable cause to believe that the activity occurred.

Looks like it you annoy the cops three times in a month without a conviction it will cost you.

Chapter 627A — POSSESSION OF FIREARMS BY CHILDREN

Chapter 674 — Handgun Possession and Sale
674.04 Handgun Owner's Identification Card; Application; Prohibitions
674.05 Registration of Handguns; Application; Fee
674.09 Handgun Dealer's Records - In addition to records required by BATFE(AM)

Chapter 621 — Offenses Against Persons

As an aside:
It seems that Cleveland decided not to worry about nuclear attack and not prepare for it.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cleveland ... er_17.html

§ 110-1 Civil Defense Expenditures

That based upon the currently available scientific and medical information which overwhelmingly demonstrates that there is no realistic, practical and effective protection against the effects of a nuclear or thermonuclear attack directed at civilian population centers, such as Cleveland, and that the only alternative to any civil defense measures is the eventual elimination of nuclear or thermonuclear weapons, the appropriation and/or expenditure of public funds by the City of Cleveland for any civil defense preparedness measures against nuclear or thermonuclear attack, including, but not limited to, plans, programs, studies and the acquisition, purchase or lease of buildings, equipment, supplies or services used or to be used in connection with such civil defense measures, are hereby declared to be wasteful and unlawful expenditures of public funds and not in the public interest and any such appropriation and/or expenditure for such civil defense measures is hereby forever prohibited.
(Effective November 2, 1982)

[dclaarjr]

§ 110-1 Civil Defense Expenditures

That based upon the currently available scientific and medical information which overwhelmingly demonstrates that there is no realistic, practical and effective protection against the effects of a nuclear or thermonuclear attack directed at civilian population centers, such as Cleveland, and that the only alternative to any civil defense measures is the eventual elimination of nuclear or thermonuclear weapons, the appropriation and/or expenditure of public funds by the City of Cleveland for any civil defense preparedness measures against nuclear or thermonuclear attack, including, but not limited to, plans, programs, studies and the acquisition, purchase or lease of buildings, equipment, supplies or services used or to be used in connection with such civil defense measures, are hereby declared to be wasteful and unlawful expenditures of public funds and not in the public interest and any such appropriation and/or expenditure for such civil defense measures is hereby forever prohibited.
(Effective November 2, 1982)

I didn't know the city of Cleveland had nuclear weapons.

[GWC]

Of course not, they eliminated them!

[carmen fovozzo]

................So in 1976 you could display and sell SEMI AUTO'S ?

[Ring]

627.22 Law Enforcement Officers Possessing or Using Nonissued Firearms on Duty
Question - Does the CPD issue BUGS???

no, but the give the cops a list of S&W guns they can use, a VARY short list, and even tell them what ammo they can use, example,

38 can ONLY be lead round nose ammo,,,,, nice dont you think?

[charben]

The Westlake thread caused me to do a search of Cleveland's Codes.
How much of this is invalid under 9.68?

Chapter 628 — Possession or Sale of Assault Weapons Prohibited

This would appear to be in violation of 9.68

627.16 Unlawful Display of Weapons
(a) No person, firm or corporation shall exhibit for sale in showcases or show windows any revolvers, daggers, stilettoes, brass or iron knuckles and billies, or display any signs, posters, cartoons or display cards, suggesting the sale of such weapons.
(b) Whoever violates this section is guilty of unlawful display of weapons, a misdemeanor of the first degree.
(Ord. No. 1020-76. Passed 6-14-76, eff. 6-18-76)

Why there are no gun shops in Cleveland.

This MIGHT be in violation. 9.68 does allow for regulation of the sale of guns in residential areas...but doesn't seem to allow for a city to prohibit such display.

[DisgruntledCitizen]

Cleveland's police department is a mess...

A while back I called their main phone number for recruiting... The number had been disconnected, although this was still the number presented on their official website.

I then made a number of other calls, ultimately getting through to a message service, at which time I left a message, clearly stating I wanted information on the POLICE department.

A few days later I received a letter thanking me for my interest in the FIRE department and informing me that I would be updated later when the next exams/tests were to be given. I then called the number listed to explain that there must have been some mistake, a person who I believe was a battalion fire chief or some middle-ranking fire official told me that I should just call the non-emergency police number (which he proceeded to give me)...

I then called the number he had just given me, receiving a message that the number had been disconnected/changed...


I couldn't, in good conscience (and wouldn't) enforce such draconian gun laws on citizens anyway. So I don't know how long I'd have lasted in Cleveland before I crossed the wrong politicial/official and wound up purged.