willbird wrote:
Your talking about the supposed right to engage in production and sale, and or use of dope and have a CCW both. I think your support base for getting high and CCW could hold it's annual members meeting in a phone booth if they could find one these days. I did not discuss production, sale or any usage of any substances. You simply stated that you didn't think the states could overwrite the feds, and I demonstrated that many have done just that, phone booths notwithstanding. The goal posts are right where I left them, and haven't moved to commercial purposes or anything else.
We are discussing a federal decree, not a law that was passed, that impacts the 2nd Amendment rights of people in the states, as they are declared "Prohibited Persons" without the benefit of due process ( a violation of 5th Amendment), being told to surrender arms.
willbird wrote:An element of Castle Doctrine in Ohio involves whether one is engaged in criminal enterprise when the self defense takes place too, that definition as far as I know does not say "criminal enterprise means only crimes involving Ohio revised code....".[/size]
I suppose this is relevant somehow. (scratches head) Have you heard the theory that we all commit
3 felonies a day?
willbird wrote:One can advocate for whatever they want, and I encourage you to do so, and I will continue to point out that you are suggesting that mainstream RKBA advocates should stand up for the right to get high and CCW...not gonna happen.
Bill
I'm certainly not advocating for anything but sobriety when using or handling firearms. That said, there is no solid scientific way to determine or define sobriety, as sleep deprivation, blood sugar swings, pharmaceutical drugs, etc can all be said to effect reflexes, alertness, thought processes, etc. It's like defining "distracted driving"...when and how is my
full attention on driving? Perhaps if everyone established a baseline and then was tested as compared to that baseline (like a concussion protocol)....
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