NFA violations: how, by whom, often are they enforced?

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NFA violations: how, by whom, often are they enforced?

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I have a SBR tax stamp for a AK rifle with a 14" barrel before the muzzle device.

I am wondering who checks to make sure my weapons have met the proper requirements? Is enforcement done when other laws are broken?

How often are people checked? Who has ever been asked to produce a tax stamp?

Who knows of people actually charged for NFA violations without other charge?
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I've had various stamps (suppressors and SBR) for a few years now and have only ever been asked when at a range (three different ranges) if I had the stamped form(s) on my person, but never have been asked to produce it/them.

I've never yet been involved with in an LEO-situation and hope to keep it that way. I don't think I'd mind showing it upon request.

Every member of the trust has copies and there are copies in my cars, my range bags, my safes and my hunting bag. I don't want to get caught without them, that's for sure.
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AFAIK, only an ATF agent can require the NFA paperwork. However ORC defines most (all?) items covered by NFA as "Dangerous Ordinance" if I remember correctly, but excluding those with the NFA paperwork. So conceivably, you will be required to pay the paperwork to any Ohio LEO. Is it required on the spot? I don't know, but I carry opies in my range bags.

FWIW, if anyone at a range asked me for paperwork, I'd ask to see their ATF ID (unless other LEO uniform). Anyone else can pound sand as I go about my legal business.
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rimfireOH wrote:I've had various stamps (suppressors and SBR) for a few years now and have only ever been asked when at a range (three different ranges) if I had the stamped form(s) on my person, but never have been asked to produce it/them.

I've never yet been involved with in an LEO-situation and hope to keep it that way. I don't think I'd mind showing it upon request.

Every member of the trust has copies and there are copies in my cars, my range bags, my safes and my hunting bag. I don't want to get caught without them, that's for sure.
Might be a good Idea to take a picture of that paperwork with your phone as another layer of security. Or store a PDF version on your phone.
Just a thought.


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rouger10 wrote: Might be a good Idea to take a picture of that paperwork with your phone as another layer of security. Or store a PDF version on your phone.
Just a thought.
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I do this with my passport, drivers license and credit cards. This gives me peace of mind when I am overseas. I keep them in an app called Photo Vault, which requires a PIN to access.
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When someone I know who has a full auto firearm was firing it on his own property, and a sheriffs deputy came out on investigation of a noise complaint, the deputy casually asked if he had the proper paperwork for it. He showed him a xerox copy of the original paperwork that was in the case. The original paperwork was in the owners house. The deputy glanced over it and handed it back. The owner said he would quit the shooting session that day, and the deputy appreciated it. :roll: The new neighbors that made the noise complaint were shocked to discover that you could legally shoot guns on your own property out in the country, even including machine guns! :shock: They moved away not to long after that. :o
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^ I'd have driven around until I found that neighbor that was going full-happy and tried to bribe my way into friendship sufficient to gain me some trigger time with said gun. :lol:
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Quick cross-post about the HPA and possibly having suppressors removed from NFA list. Please consider calling your Representative and asking them for their vote on the SHARE bill.
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scottb wrote:
rouger10 wrote: Might be a good Idea to take a picture of that paperwork with your phone as another layer of security. Or store a PDF version on your phone.
Just a thought.
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I do this with my passport, drivers license and credit cards. This gives me peace of mind when I am overseas. I keep them in an app called Photo Vault, which requires a PIN to access.
Good call !!! I'll look into that. Thanks
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