LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
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LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
Situation: Concealed carry laws in Ohio have some serious problems that need to be corrected.
Background: Notification was a poison pill from the original bill granting concealed handgun licenses. Several Ohioans that have failed to notify fast enough have gotten arrested, and it is one of the more common problems that concealed carriers encounter.
The last law change added confusion whereby political subdivisions could opt in to allow carry but did not remove the requirement for the no carry signs.
We still have a duty to retreat in Ohio.
Assessment: The laws need to be more friendly and less punitive for concealed carry holders, but we need help to get this done.
Recommendation: Help OFCC by attending a Legislative Action Day in Columbus at the Statehouse March 21 and 22. Whether you can help for one day or two would be a great help. These items are what we hope to change, and we are going to try to get them earlier in the session, rather than waiting until the lame duck. Please add MARCH 21 and 22 to your calendar, and plan to meet legislators and aides to get the laws corrected.
For more information, contact Chuck or Morne. They are spearheading this effort.
Background: Notification was a poison pill from the original bill granting concealed handgun licenses. Several Ohioans that have failed to notify fast enough have gotten arrested, and it is one of the more common problems that concealed carriers encounter.
The last law change added confusion whereby political subdivisions could opt in to allow carry but did not remove the requirement for the no carry signs.
We still have a duty to retreat in Ohio.
Assessment: The laws need to be more friendly and less punitive for concealed carry holders, but we need help to get this done.
Recommendation: Help OFCC by attending a Legislative Action Day in Columbus at the Statehouse March 21 and 22. Whether you can help for one day or two would be a great help. These items are what we hope to change, and we are going to try to get them earlier in the session, rather than waiting until the lame duck. Please add MARCH 21 and 22 to your calendar, and plan to meet legislators and aides to get the laws corrected.
For more information, contact Chuck or Morne. They are spearheading this effort.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
It's time.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
At this point, Constitutional Carry is not the point of this.
Right now, we need to fix the mess up from the sausage made during lame duck. And there are these other peculiarities that we need to fix.
Right now, we need to fix the mess up from the sausage made during lame duck. And there are these other peculiarities that we need to fix.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
pirateguy191 wrote:It's time.
https://bearingarms.com/beth-b/2017/02/ ... ry-states/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If Rep Hood ever introduces it, I'll lobby for it.
Or even has the language drawn up.
Repealing duty to retreat and repealing notification language is in our hands
Did you know?
The Constitutional Carry draft I saw a year or two ago presumed everyone had a license and therefore everyone still had to notify, retreat if possible, etc.
Ain't activism fun?
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"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
I put it on the calendar... Not much of a talker, but I can be there
Steve
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"Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it, have never known it again.".............. Ronald Reagan
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
Don't make me come down there Chuck.Chuck wrote:pirateguy191 wrote:It's time.
https://bearingarms.com/beth-b/2017/02/ ... ry-states/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If Rep Hood ever introduces it, I'll lobby for it.
Or even has the language drawn up.
Repealing duty to retreat and repealing notification language is in our hands
Did you know?
The Constitutional Carry draft I saw a year or two ago presumed everyone had a license and therefore everyone still had to notify, retreat if possible, etc.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." ~ Mike Vanderboegh
NRA member, NRA basic pistol instructor, DBACB
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." ~ Mike Vanderboegh
NRA member, NRA basic pistol instructor, DBACB
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
I WANT you to come down here!
Especially on the 21 & 22
Especially on the 21 & 22
Ain't activism fun?
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
#nofiltersChuck wrote:I WANT you to come down here!
Especially on the 21 & 22
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." ~ Mike Vanderboegh
NRA member, NRA basic pistol instructor, DBACB
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." ~ Mike Vanderboegh
NRA member, NRA basic pistol instructor, DBACB
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
I'm not seeing the downside.pirateguy191 wrote:#nofiltersChuck wrote:I WANT you to come down here!
Especially on the 21 & 22
Just so everybody knows, we are trying to put together multiple TEAMS of OFCC people to go to these meetings. The idea is to have at least 2 of our people for every meeting which helps because someone may articulate one point better than someone else. Also, some people are just naturally better with one legislator's personality than another's.
Having a good-cop/bad-cop on a team is a valid approach. There's nothing wrong with having someone on a team saying, "We want all of this garbage out of our way." That is, and always has been, the ultimate goal of our organization. Big picture, there. Remind those guys/gals in the statehouse of that. Of course, while we're there we ALSO want to say, "Fix the mess y'all made in that lame duck, get us true SYG with civil immunity and ditch notification." Those positions are not mutually exclusive at all.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
I'm in. Bringing Mrs. sd790 and maybe my two daughters (16 & 18).
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
I do have two vacation days left that have to be used before April. Hmmmmm.......
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." ~ Mike Vanderboegh
NRA member, NRA basic pistol instructor, DBACB
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." ~ Mike Vanderboegh
NRA member, NRA basic pistol instructor, DBACB
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
These particular dates we're using is because I have two I have to use before March 25pirateguy191 wrote:I do have two vacation days left that have to be used before April. Hmmmmm.......
Do it Jeff!
How many times you posted "Go get'em Chuck" when I was going down there?
Come on man!
Drive to my house and we'll ride in together from here
Ain't activism fun?
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
I'm in for both days. So is Mrs WestonDon.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
Excellent Don!
Ain't activism fun?
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " - George Washington
"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS
Tried to get the wife to come... even offered overnight in wonderful Columbus.... no joy... lol
Steve
"Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it, have never known it again.".............. Ronald Reagan
"Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it, have never known it again.".............. Ronald Reagan