Man Shot By Instructor During Fairfield County Concealed Car

[Tweed Ring]

No loaded guns in the class. None.

Interesting. I did not know that.

I have carried openly several time when teaching the legal portion of CHL classes with NRA-certified instructors. Although the gun never leaves the holster, it is definitely loaded. Nobody ever told me I couldn't or shouldn't.

However, if that contravenes official NRA policy, I will reconsider.

My NRA Instructor-Trainer was adamant about the no loaded guns and no live ammo in the class policy. Too much chance for one meeting the other with bad results.

[Guitar Slinger]

But, as they say, any schmuck can become an NRA instructor.

Who says that ?

73 year old guy... elitist "law enforcement" attitude...

Why am I not surprised ?

A good number of OPOTA instructors that I've dealt with.

"Terry also teaches in the law enforcement training program through the Eastland Career Center, recertifies law enforcement officials in Firearms Certification, and schedules and instructs many local Conceal Carry certification classes. He also does consultation with Ohio’s Supreme Court Systems on their security measures and practices. Terry maintains his status as a Peace Office with the Harrisburg Police Department."

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In the same sense... anyone can be qualified to be a OPOTA instructor.

Yikes.....

[mreising]

No loaded guns in the class. None.

Interesting. I did not know that.

I have carried openly several time when teaching the legal portion of CHL classes with NRA-certified instructors. Although the gun never leaves the holster, it is definitely loaded. Nobody ever told me I couldn't or shouldn't.

However, if that contravenes official NRA policy, I will reconsider.

It is spelled out very specifically in the NRA Instructor Guides and is a hard and fast policy in the classroom. I am surprised that the instructors have not checked your gun when you entered the classroom. We always show clear when entering the classroom with a gun. We usually leave our ammo on the windowsill outside the classroom so we can load as we leave to pick up food or go to the range, and we always unload when we return to the classroom. We also check the students' guns and all of the guns we have out on the table in the classroom. We don't load our guns until the end of the day and all the students have left, then we rearm while we count the bazillions of dollars we just took in . If you believe that last one I've got some swamp land to sell; it will be listed in the For Sale/Trades/Wanted-Misc. Non-Firearms forum..

[Chuck]

No loaded guns in the class. None.

Interesting. I did not know that.

I have carried openly several time when teaching the legal portion of CHL classes with NRA-certified instructors. Although the gun never leaves the holster, it is definitely loaded. Nobody ever told me I couldn't or shouldn't.

However, if that contravenes official NRA policy, I will reconsider.

Yep,
That's a hard and fast rule
First slide of the Basic Pistol Course

[Tweed Ring]

My Instructor-Trainer was an NRA Instructor-Trainer. Again, he stressed this requirement over and over.

Adamant.

[DontTreadOnMe]

For comparison, mine was OPOTA certified active LEO and had his sidearm IWB during class. Lifted his shirt to show it was there and that was the only time a real gun was seen outside the range portion of the class.

[mreising]

My Instructor-Trainer was an NRA Instructor-Trainer. Again, he stressed this requirement over and over.

Adamant.

The NRA refers to us as Training Counselors
Training Counselors train instructors, Sr. and Master Training Counselors teach Training Counselors. The more I look at this the more it looks like Mary Kay or Amway

[Tweed Ring]

Sorry, I'm still locked in to the PR-24 baton hierarchy, i.e. Student; Instructor; Instructor-Trainer; Senior Instructor-Trainer; International Instructor.

[mreising]

Sorry, I'm still locked in to the PR-24 baton hierarchy, i.e. Student; Instructor; Instructor-Trainer; Senior Instructor-Trainer; International Instructor.

Another Multi-Level marketing scheme.

[scorchedtrumpet]

10TV interviewed a female student that was in the class at the time of the shooting, she said the gun was not aimed at the victim, that the bullet ricochet off of a desk or something. I could not find a video of this, and it really doesn't change the fact that there should not have been any ammo in the class, never mind in the gun, I'm just pointing out that he may not have actually pointed the muzzle directly at the student.

[wobblygoblin]

He was my instructor three years ago.

I am shocked this happened.

[Werz]

Sorry, I'm still locked in to the PR-24 baton hierarchy, i.e. Student; Instructor; Instructor-Trainer; Senior Instructor-Trainer; International Instructor.

Another Multi-Level marketing scheme.

The NRA-MLM ...

[Face]

10TV interviewed a female student that was in the class at the time of the shooting, she said the gun was not aimed at the victim, that the bullet ricochet off of a desk or something. I could not find a video of this, and it really doesn't change the fact that there should not have been any ammo in the class, never mind in the gun, I'm just pointing out that he may not have actually pointed the muzzle directly at the student.

Link to above video http://www.10tv.com/content/sections/vi ... mpid=share

[Chuck]

This guy is no stranger to accidental shootings
According to this story, he once shot a girl in the leg while "shooting blanks" up in the air

Cathy Schmelzer couldn’t believe it when she read in the newspaper that Terry J. Dunlap Sr. — a firearms instructor — had accidentally shot someone.

“Oh no, he’s done it again!” she said she thought to herself. Schmelzer, 50, was Cathy Hessler, a 14-year-old Pickerington girl, when she was accidentally shot in 1977 by Dunlap during a Halloween hayride.

At the time, Dunlap was a Pickerington police department auxiliary lieutenant. According to a Dispatch account back then, Dunlap said he had fired his .38-caliber handgun into the air to create, in his words, a “scary effect” while taking his daughter and her friends for a “haunted hayride” on his rural property in Fairfield County.

Dunlap said he thought the gun was loaded with blanks

Wonder if it was the same gun?

[TSiWRX]

This guy is no stranger to accidental shootings

Oh, wow. That's no good.

If this story is true, this guy needs to go.