Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.
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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.
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- knightowl
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Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
Elyria twp was lucky to be donated a large piece of land to transform into a park/nature reserve. Unfortunately they have posted at least two "no firearms" signs that i seen.
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
If it is TWP owned and not a building they can not post it.knightowl wrote:Elyria twp was lucky to be donated a large piece of land to transform into a park/nature reserve. Unfortunately they have posted at least two "no firearms" signs that i seen.
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- knightowl
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
Here is the email i sent them
I received a phone call from them today and they said the are going to consult with their prosecutor about the legalities of their sign.I am writing this E-Mail to officially inform you that the current signs posted at Rowlands Nature Preserve which include the wording “No Firearms or hunting” is a violation of Ohio revised code which in short says only the United States or the Ohio Constitutions can ban firearms from any public property. I am including the link to the law http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/gp9.68" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .
I am hoping that to prevent a financial down fall from any lawsuits due to this violation and I believe that simply removing the words “firearms” and “or” from the “No Firearms or Hunting” would be sufficient in preventing any legal action against Elyria Township and its residents.
Thank you for your cooperation in this matter
Jeff Phillips
(440) XXX-XXXX
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
The problem here is knowing how to say "No Hunting or Target shooting" without saying "No Firearms Allowed"! I still see that around here on the list of Rules at some town and county parks.
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
While I applaud your efforts in this, I wish you wouldn't have pulled the lawsuit card quite yet. Were YOU going to sue them? In most cases, we don't have to go there in a first communication.
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- knightowl
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
Well I live in this township and i think the township does a great job and i truly would not want the township to lose my tax dollars for a lawsuit that can be avoided by a simple wording change on the sign. I made that clear to them when i talked to them at a family fun fair Saturday.
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
Then again knightowl's strongly worded letter may have saved you months of e-mail, snail mail letter and phone tag, Chris, time which would be so much better spent at getting 88 or so county fairgrounds UNposted around Ohio, or something else maybe.charben wrote:While I applaud your efforts in this, I wish you wouldn't have pulled the lawsuit card quite yet. Were YOU going to sue them? In most cases, we don't have to go there in a first communication.
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
Very well could be!Brian D. wrote:Then again knightowl's strongly worded letter may have saved you months of e-mail, snail mail letter and phone tag, Chris, time which would be so much better spent at getting 88 or so county fairgrounds UNposted around Ohio, or something else maybe.charben wrote:While I applaud your efforts in this, I wish you wouldn't have pulled the lawsuit card quite yet. Were YOU going to sue them? In most cases, we don't have to go there in a first communication.
Chris
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"If you walk out of your house carrying your gun (openly or otherwise) and you DO NOT fully understand the law, then you are NOT completely armed..."
Crushing the First Amendment, one post at a time!
"If you walk out of your house carrying your gun (openly or otherwise) and you DO NOT fully understand the law, then you are NOT completely armed..."
- knightowl
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
Received anther email today
Jeff, Thank you bringing this to our attention, we have asked our legal council to provide us with the correct language for our signs. Please note that the word firearms has been covered up temporarily while we look into a permanent fix for the sign.
Jeff, Thank you bringing this to our attention, we have asked our legal council to provide us with the correct language for our signs. Please note that the word firearms has been covered up temporarily while we look into a permanent fix for the sign.
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Re: Rowlands Nature Preserve in Elyria twp
Golf clap. Good job. Let us know what the permanent fix is.
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