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400 guns taken from UPS facility in TN

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Two people driving a U-Haul truck stole the weapons from a UPS facility in Memphis on Sunday, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said Monday. The agency is asking for the public’s help in the case: It offered a $5,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction.

Investigators are looking into exactly how many guns were taken, but the estimate of 400 stolen firearms makes it one of the largest single gun thefts the ATF has investigated, bureau spokesman Michael Knight said. ATF agents and the Memphis Police Department are reviewing manifests and bills to determine where the guns were shipped from and where they were going.
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Found the truck heading towards Chicago. Two have been charged.
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DOA33 wrote:Found the truck heading towards Chicago. Two have been charged.
Did they find a large stack of 4473 forms ready to be filled out by purchasers of the guns? Obviously they wouldn't break the law by not going through comprehensive universal background checks.
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DOA33 wrote:Found the truck heading towards Chicago. Two have been charged.
The latest source I read claims that while two have been charged, only one is in custody. Allegedly they refused to come out of the van and police broke the passenger door window, when they then allegedly jumped out of the drivers side door and ran off. This wasn't on the road, they were stopped in a CVS parking lot, allegedly selling off some of the guns. Some of the guns are still missing.

They just simply drove the U Haul van onto the facility loaded up the van and took off. Doesn't UPS have any kind of security at all? One of my first armed security jobs was at a scrapyard, yet guns worth thousands of dollars aren't guarded? :roll:

Also the police had them stopped, the police chose the moment to break the window to gain entry after the suspects locked the doors and refused to exit, yet the suspects were merely allowed to simply run out the other door? :?: Did this really happen in Chicago's jurisdiction, or in some suburb called Keystone? :roll:

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Sunday afternoon, the U-Haul was spotted outside a Walgreens store in south suburban Midlothian. A caller reported two men selling drugs from the truck. Sources told CBS 2 the men were actually selling the stolen guns. According to the charges, Turnbo and Jackson sold at least three guns for a total of $400 before they were arrested.

When officers arrived, they questioned Turnbo and Jackson, and asked them to step out of the truck, but they locked the van door. When police saw boxes labeled “Ruger” in the truck, they broke the van’s window, and the two suspects jumped out the other side of the vehicle and ran away.

Police found Turnbo a few hours later and arrested him. Authorities have not yet found Jackson, and have offered a $5,000 reward for information leading to his arrest.
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M-Quigley axed:
Doesn't UPS have any kind of security at all? One of my first armed security jobs was at a scrapyard, yet guns worth thousands of dollars aren't guarded? :roll:

"Page 16" of the employee manual (page 21 in reality)
UPS prohibits violent behavior in the workplace including, but not limited
to, physical assaults, fighting, threatening comments, intimidation, threats
through electronic communications including social media, and the
intentional or reckless destruction of property of the company, employee,
UPS representative, or customer. Comments or behavior that reasonably
could be interpreted as intent to do harm to people or property will be
considered a threat.
We also prohibit the unauthorized possession and/or
use of weapons by any employee or UPS representative while at work, on
company property, or while on company business.
* emphasis added by bignflnut

M-Quigley will be happy to know that UPS specifically prohibits these guns from being stolen and will not allow employees "...unauthorized possession and/or use of weapons by any employee... while at work..."

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Wait till we see how they are going to solve this problem.
It was their firearm theft problem that led to us paying big bucks for overnight/2 day shipping, supposedly to prevent them from disappearing from the depots.
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JimE wrote:Wait till we see how they are going to solve this problem.
It was their firearm theft problem that led to us paying big bucks for overnight/2 day shipping, supposedly to prevent them from disappearing from the depots.
And what incentive is there at the moment for them to solve the problem? I say "at the moment" because if someone is injured or killed from one of the stolen guns that wasn't recovered someone might sue them, and maybe that will actually cause them to do something.
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[quote="M-Quigley"

And what incentive is there at the moment for them to solve the problem? I say "at the moment" because if someone is injured or killed from one of the stolen guns that wasn't recovered someone might sue them, and maybe that will actually cause them to do something.[/quote]

UPS's (and FedEx) current theory is if it is "air transit" , overnight & two day air, it will not be in one place long enough for someone to steal.
Supposedly.
That is why it now costs so stinking much to ship handguns by commercial carriers. (USPS is different, but you must have an FFL)
I can imagine they are going to find a way make us pay even more now.
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