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Armed teachers in Georgia schools

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In one part of the article it talks about the insurance cost of having someone armed (besides the murderer) to deal with an active shooting situation. The thing that never seems to be taken into account is that it is always in comparison to doing nothing. The schools and insurers never seem to have to bear any financial responsibility for not having an adequate response to a mass shooting, because they don't successfully get sued (yet) The key issue should be peoples lives, not merely the insurance cost. :(
Both Brigman and Thweatt believe arming teachers is an effective use of resources. For the cost of one full-time police officer, Thweatt said he can have about 20 people armed and trained to protect the school.

But some argue that it won’t save money in the long run: expenses such as insurance and training costs will eat short-term savings. Any school employee who carries a gun on campus raises insurance rates. Those who determine those costs say the presence of guns, no matter who carries them, makes any place susceptible to injury or death. Who pays for the insurance depends mainly on who that person works for — the school district, an independent law enforcement office such as city police or county sheriff or an independent security firm.
Both Brigman and Thweatt believe arming teachers is an effective use of resources. For the cost of one full-time police officer, Thweatt said he can have about 20 people armed and trained to protect the school.

But some argue that it won’t save money in the long run: expenses such as insurance and training costs will eat short-term savings. Any school employee who carries a gun on campus raises insurance rates. Those who determine those costs say the presence of guns, no matter who carries them, makes any place susceptible to injury or death. Who pays for the insurance depends mainly on who that person works for — the school district, an independent law enforcement office such as city police or county sheriff or an independent security firm.
Another issue is safety. Although accidents have happened, none of them have resulted in multiple deaths or multiple serious injuries. One odd one was a child who fired a cops gun while still in his holster. :?:

Safety itself is another argument. Opponents fear authorizing guns for teachers will lead to innocent people getting hurt or killed.
No schools in the U.S. with armed teachers have had active-shooter events, but there have been gun mishaps.

A few weeks after the Parkland shooting, a teacher in a Northern California school accidentally discharged a firearm while teaching a public safety class. One student was injured by a bullet fragment or debris.

A third-grade boy in Minnesota was able to snake a finger into a school police officer’s holster earlier this year, firing one shot from the department-issued Glock 22 into the floor of the school gymnasium.
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M-Quigley wrote:The key issue should be peoples lives, not merely the insurance cost. :(
Quoted for truth.
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There is so much misunderstanding regarding armed staff in school it drives me nuts. It is worst because the media doesn't even try to do anything to understand the issue. Ex. They keep saying "12 states allow armed staff" we hired a law student 2 years ago and found the true number is between 30-35. Why can't a journalist even attempt to find the truth instead of continuing to repeat bad information.


First, there is one insurance company here in Ohio who by default raise the premiums by more then $1000 per armed person.

There is another insurance company here in Ohio who sends risk managers to all the FASTER classes to verify that the training they are getting meets the underwriter's risk level and won't raise the rates simply because they have armed staff. (Guess which company many schools are switching to??)


Secondly, I tell the schools I meet with this. We can play 'what-if' games all day and while nothing is 100%, we do know that 'the old way' has already resulted in dozens of deaths for certain. The FASTER program has now trained 1300 staff from 225 districts across 12 states and even using a conservative 50% continuation rate we now have over 1300 man-YEARS of staff experience carrying in schools. We will do at least 400 more this year and are working with schools in Indiana, New York, Georgia and Idaho to take the training there during 2019.

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