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Retired associate justice says repeal 2nd Amendment

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opin ... pe=article" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Although I disagree with his opinion, at least he's actually coming out and saying what he really thinks, unlike most anti gunners who merely want to deceive the undecided. :roll:
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I say go for it.

The first ten were required in order to even get the current constitution passed. Repeal any of them and the whole thing is null and void.

Besides, they also tell government where it may not tread. By acting to repeal them they are in fact treading where they were told not to.
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Relic of 18th century? Arizona Constitution is from 20th Century. "The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men. "
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I missread....thought it said retarded associate justice.
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I suppose he forgot what happened when King George tried the same thing! :shock:
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This scum bag John Paul Stevens should be the first one to lose any kind of security or protection provided by tax payers.
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I cannot find any videos showing him stating this recent position. I do find where he said anti-2A statement just a few years ago already in his 90s.

The only way he wants to change the 2nd ALSO changes the 1st, being, the ability for anyone to have advocacy for them on their positions. Namely he attacks the NRA , wanting to 'restrict' their free speech via 'restricting' 2A

Former Justice Stevens is attacking free speech but the water carriers, formerly called reporters & reporterettes, are allll too quick to knee-jerk & squawk ''blame the 2A'' ''NRA'' etc. Or just too plain stupid to realize it.

Or both hehe

And that's just a quick summation on the reason why, THANK GOD, the amendments were written very similarly so as to stop an attack on one or you invite attack on the beloved other.
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Ford Appointment
Ford ran as a Republican.
Concern that a national standing army might pose a threat to the security of the separate states led to the adoption of that amendment, which provides that “a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Today that concern is a relic of the 18th century.
Didn't the GOP just celebrate funding such a national standing army? Nevermind that...

Yes, if you give the government a true monopoly on force, bad things happen. This is not a relic of any century. It happens consistently in history. Even in the 20th Century:
There are a number of cases where a wave of gun confiscation and registration directly presaged a democidal outbreak. Examples of this include:

In Turkey, gun control was tightened prior to the Armenian genocide.
The Soviet Union instituted gun control in 1929, disarming the formerly heavily armed Soviet populace.
China’s gun control program was rolled out by the Republic of China in 1938.
Guatemala started gun control in 1964, prior to killing 100,000 Mayan Indians.
Uganda’s gun control program began in 1970, almost immediately before an eight-year program of exterminating Christians began.
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Hilariously, Redneck comedians are pointing us to history in order to caution those who share Stevens' view:

History, History, History! Learn from it. RT @PoliticalShort: Those wanting to repeal the Second Amendment should read Judge Kozinski’s Dissenting Opinion in Silveira v. Lockyer https://t.co/CgjhjNoSxl" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; pic.twitter.com/AzsMRoCORK

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THE SECOND AMENDMENT WILL NEVER BE REPEALED! As much as Democrats would like to see this happen, and despite the words yesterday of former Supreme Court Justice Stevens, NO WAY. We need more Republicans in 2018 and must ALWAYS hold the Supreme Court!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 28, 2018

Mr. Trump’s declaration in an early morning tweet came after days of silence on the subject, despite student-organized marches around the country over the weekend calling for more gun control.

On Tuesday, the retired Justice John Paul Stevens wrote an Op-Ed in The New York Times calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment.
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I honestly think that Trump is responsible for this entire mess. When he signaled his support for the bump stock ban, he signaled his willingness to give in to the anti's. He gave an inch, now the anti's want to take a mile. The anti's are unleashed and are calling for gun bans, confiscation, and even the killing of pro 2A citizens. Nice job Trump!
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I also see this as a (hopefully) sure fire way to fire up the pro gun base.
Stevens and the NYT did the NRA and GOA a big favor, they now have real solid talking points to back up the "They want to take our guns!"

On Saturday I donations to both GOA and NRA, I might just made a few more now.
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The last three posts hit it exactly

Although still, the highest authority with the most influence over all matters in America is not POTUS, SCOTUS and/or retirees, it is the fully functional United States Citizen.

Still in modern day America, yes in the times of Instagram, facepage twiller and such, where even emails seem old fashioned , politicians CRINGE if they get 10, 30...100 handwritten letters from constituents on a same or similar topic. Yes contacting Reps is part of the CV for the Citizen mentioned, above.

Speaking of CV criteria, 23 days until the rally :)
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What rally?
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WhyNot wrote:I cannot find any videos showing him stating this recent position. I do find where he said anti-2A statement just a few years ago already in his 90s.
In the OP, the link is a NY times Op Ed on March 27, 2018, it says that the op ed was written by John Paul Stevens. Are you saying that he didn't write it, or that he wrote it a few years ago?
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