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Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby bignflnut » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:07 am

In what has become a familiar ritual of grief, President Donald Trump planned to address the nation Thursday morning about a deadly mass shooting at a Florida high school, after focusing on mental health, rather than guns, in his early comments.

The president's address comes a day after a former student opened fire at the Parkland, Florida, high school with an AR-15 rifle, killing 17 people and injuring 14 more. The 19-year-old was charged Thursday morning.

Trump, who did not speak publicly immediately after the shooting, weighed in on Twitter early Thursday, calling the suspect "mentally disturbed" and stressing it was important to "report such instances to authorities, again and again!" He tweeted about the shooting twice on Wednesday, expressing condolences and saying he spoke with Florida's governor.


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What will be said in this address?
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby bignflnut » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:09 am

Livestream here (18 school shootings year to date? What do you think if you're connected to the other 17?)

or here
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby bignflnut » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:36 am

Nil about CPZs.

Faith, family, community, country, dignity of life...we're going to make schools safe...political speech.
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby Brian D. » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:41 am

Glen Beck's show gave a rundown on those "other 17 school shootings in 2018" this morning. Deliberate exaggeration by the MSM. One was a third grader who pulled the trigger on a cop's gun, somehow. Another was a drive by not targeting the school, and I think it was at night, no one there to be injured. Another sounded like a stray round that did minor injury to a girl on the playground. And so on.
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby bignflnut » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:50 am

President Donald Trump said Thursday he is planning a visit to the Florida town where a gunman opened fire on students and staffers, killing 17 and injuring several others.

“We comfort the grieving and the wounded and we hurt for the entire community in Parkland, Florida," Trump said in his first public appearance since the shooting.

“We are committed to working with state and local leaders to help secure our schools and tackle the difficult issue of mental health," he said, without directly mentioning the controversial debate over gun control.
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby bignflnut » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:55 am

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Thursday called on Congress to look into issues related to gun violence less than 24 hours after 17 people were killed in a school shooting in Florida.

“I will say, personally, I think the gun violence — it’s a tragedy what we’ve seen yesterday, and I urge Congress to look at these issues,” Mnuchin said at a House Ways and Means Committee hearing.

Mnuchin’s comments were notable, because he was the first senior Trump administration official to call for a congressional review after the massacre. He was responding to questions from Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) about whether there was any money in President Trump’s new budget to address gun violence.


Here's the relationship between Treasury and ATF:
In 1972 ATF was officially established as an independent bureau within the Treasury Department on July 1, 1972, this transferred the responsibilities of the ATF division of the IRS to the new Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Rex D. Davis oversaw the transition, becoming the bureau's first director, having headed the division since 1970. During his tenure, Davis shepherded the organization into a new era where federal firearms and explosives laws addressing violent crime became the primary mission of the agency.[9] However, taxation and other alcohol issues remained priorities as ATF collected billions of dollars in alcohol and tobacco taxes, and undertook major revisions of the federal wine labeling regulations relating to use of appellations of origin and varietal designations on wine labels.

In the wake of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, President George W. Bush signed into law the Homeland Security Act of 2002. In addition to the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, the law shifted ATF from the Department of the Treasury to the Department of Justice. The agency's name was changed to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. However, the agency still was referred to as the "ATF" for all purposes. Additionally, the task of collection of federal tax revenue derived from the production of tobacco and alcohol products and the regulatory function related to protecting the public in issues related to the production of alcohol, previously handled by the Bureau of Internal Revenue as well as by ATF, was transferred to the newly established Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB), which remained within the Treasury Department. These changes took effect January 24, 2003.
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby Cruiser » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:11 pm

bignflnut wrote:Livestream here (18 school shootings year to date? What do you think if you're connected to the other 17?)

or here

Read the real facts.
But that narrative was gleaned from the anti-gun group Everytown for Gun Safety. Here are some facts, in order to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to the facts:

https://www.dailywire.com/node/27165#
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby bignflnut » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:11 pm

bignflnut wrote: (18 school shootings year to date? What do you think if you're connected to the other 17?)



Indeed, that statistic has been everywhere. It is also, as The Washington Post reported Thursday evening, "flat wrong." Unless your definition of "school shooting" is broad enough to include suicides in school parking lots or accidental gun discharges that didn't harm anyone.

Everytown for Gun Safety, the Michael Bloomberg–backed anti-gun group founded after the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, was the original source for that particular statistic. The group's initial tweet claiming that the attack at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School was the 18th school shooting in 2018 has now been retweeted more than 1,200 times. The group defines a school shooting is "any time a firearm discharges a live round inside a school building or on a school campus or grounds."

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This isn't just an embarrassing case of confirmation bias. Spreading such misleading statistics affects how Americans—from ordinary working people to elected officials—understand and cope with these terrible incidents. It's similar to when Donald Trump falsely claimed that the American murder rate was at a 45-year high: Inflating the stats like that may have been politically expedient for Trump, but it didn't make it any easier to talk about how to craft policies to help those corners of America that really were seeing unusually high crime rates.
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby AlanM » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:45 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#2018

As of this week there have been 7 actual school shootings in 2018.
totals: 20 dead, 40 injured.
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Re: Trump to address nation on deadly mass shooting

Postby bignflnut » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:33 am

President Donald Trump "is supportive of efforts to improve the federal background check system" for gun purchases, less than a week after the Florida school shooting that killed 17 people.

Principal Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah said in a statement on Monday that Trump spoke with Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican, on Friday about a bill he introduced with Sen. Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat, that aims to strengthen how state and federal governments report offenses that could prohibit people from buying a gun.

"While discussions are ongoing and revisions are being considered, the President is supportive of efforts to improve the federal background check system," Shah said. Students, teachers and lawmakers have urged Trump and other Republican lawmakers to take action on guns in the wake of the Parkland, Florida, shooting.


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