Is it so difficult to admit that you might need to reevaluate your sources?bignflnut wrote:Fellas,
I posted a quote from a story.
Take it up with those authors and/or cite your own stories that make your point.
Is it so difficult to admit that he botched that moment?
The Trojan Horse that is Trump
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Re: The Trojan Horse that is Trump
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Re: The Trojan Horse that is Trump
Take 2...
It's a nuanced position that you simple rubes, who want honesty, can't comprehend. (keep this out of the spotlight, because it hurts our numbers...we've addressed it and put it to bed as a potential issue between the two)
So, don't worry...Schmieg and Werz have found our Saviour.
What could possibly go wrong?
They go on to say how the NRA and Gunowners of America are good with the comments...Republican nominee Donald Trump appeared at first blush to deviate from gun-rights orthodoxy in this week’s presidential debate when he agreed with Democrat Hillary Clinton that people on terror watch lists should potentially be barred from buying guns.
By reaffirming that position Monday—with millions watching and at a pivotal point in the campaign—Mr. Trump underlined the rarity of a GOP nominee taking anything but an unrelenting position regarding gun rights.
“I agree with you,” Mr. Trump told Mrs. Clinton. “I think we have to look very strongly at no-fly lists and watch lists.”
But Mr. Trump quickly aligned himself with the National Rifle Association by adding that he favors what the NRA views as due-process safeguards, which critics say would allow many on the federal government’s lists to buy guns anyway.
It's a nuanced position that you simple rubes, who want honesty, can't comprehend. (keep this out of the spotlight, because it hurts our numbers...we've addressed it and put it to bed as a potential issue between the two)
So, don't worry...Schmieg and Werz have found our Saviour.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Nothing will go wrong as long as you continue wearing your tin foil beanie.bignflnut wrote:So, don't worry...Schmieg and Werz have found our Saviour.
What could possibly go wrong?
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No fly no buy list, even with due process is nonsense. Process already exists to figure out if someone can buy a gun or not
Conservative presidential candidate is in favor of this list
He also likes stop and frisk and tarriffs
Sure. What could go wrong
Conservative presidential candidate is in favor of this list
He also likes stop and frisk and tarriffs
Sure. What could go wrong
"The great object is, that every man be armed"
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What's the problem with stop and frisk? I agree with you on tariffs, but that is an economic judgment call.true_pair wrote:No fly no buy list, even with due process is nonsense. Process already exists to figure out if someone can buy a gun or not
Conservative presidential candidate is in favor of this list
He also likes stop and frisk and tarriffs
Sure. What could go wrong
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Re: The Trojan Horse that is Trump
troll2bignflnut wrote:Take 2...
They go on to say how the NRA and Gunowners of America are good with the comments...Republican nominee Donald Trump appeared at first blush to deviate from gun-rights orthodoxy in this week’s presidential debate when he agreed with Democrat Hillary Clinton that people on terror watch lists should potentially be barred from buying guns.
By reaffirming that position Monday—with millions watching and at a pivotal point in the campaign—Mr. Trump underlined the rarity of a GOP nominee taking anything but an unrelenting position regarding gun rights.
“I agree with you,” Mr. Trump told Mrs. Clinton. “I think we have to look very strongly at no-fly lists and watch lists.”
But Mr. Trump quickly aligned himself with the National Rifle Association by adding that he favors what the NRA views as due-process safeguards, which critics say would allow many on the federal government’s lists to buy guns anyway.
It's a nuanced position that you simple rubes, who want honesty, can't comprehend. (keep this out of the spotlight, because it hurts our numbers...we've addressed it and put it to bed as a potential issue between the two)
So, don't worry...Schmieg and Werz have found our Saviour.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Not an argumentWerz wrote: Nothing will go wrong as long as you continue wearing your tin foil beanie.
Glad that shiny things amuse/comfort you.
Thanks for not disagreeing with my argument.
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"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams to Mass Militia 10-11-1798
Republicans.Hate.You. See2020.
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams to Mass Militia 10-11-1798
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People have forgotten about Terry v. Ohio, just like they have forgotten about the character assassinations Hillary performed on her husband's paramours.schmieg wrote:What's the problem with stop and frisk?
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
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IIRC one of the pre requisites of a Terry type search was reasonable suspicion that the person to be searched was armed. "Stop and Frisk" in it's recent NYC form is problematic because profiling reared it's ugly head. Yep...you guessed it, young Black men were being singled out and were the primary targets for (likely unnecessary...unjustifiable) stop and frisks.Werz wrote:People have forgotten about Terry v. Ohio, just like they have forgotten about the character assassinations Hillary performed on her husband's paramours.schmieg wrote:What's the problem with stop and frisk?
IANAL if that isn't obvious from the above
Give em' Hell Pike!!!
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Which doesn't change the fact that stop-and-frisk is lawful and constitutional; it's all in the execution.glocksmith wrote:IIRC one of the pre requisites of a Terry type search was reasonable suspicion that the person to be searched was armed. "Stop and Frisk" in it's recent NYC form is problematic because profiling reared it's ugly head. Yep...you guessed it, young Black men were being singled out and were the primary targets for (likely unnecessary...unjustifiable) stop and frisks.Werz wrote:People have forgotten about Terry v. Ohio, just like they have forgotten about the character assassinations Hillary performed on her husband's paramours.schmieg wrote:What's the problem with stop and frisk?
IANAL if that isn't obvious from the above
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.