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Links on info to save the 2nd Amendment

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A friend of mine was debating an anti-gunner and needed some help from me, but could not get a hold of me. He asked, since he could not get a hold of me in a timely fashion, could I put together a resource list so he could look up the info for himself. So I did, and thought since it was already made up, that I should share it and ask others to share any important links they have as well. This way it could be a good clearinghouse for someone new to the fight to save the 2nd.

Advice when arguing with antis. Never believe what they say, it is usually a lie or at the very least an exaggeration of some kind. Ask for links, they get their info from anti-gun sites, so bust them for it. Even though the NRA is very factual, never quote anything directly from their website, or any other pro-gun website. That is unless if it Eddie the Eagle or some NRA history. Google what the Pro-gun sites say and find a reputable source. It’s there somewhere. Even though guncite is on this list, and has the word gun is in it, don’t let the antis talk you out of it. It is 100% accurate, and can usually be proven by looking at their sources.

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http://www.aphf.org/survey.html National Survey of Police Chiefs & Sheriffs
http://www.guncite.com Gun cite
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ USDOJ Crime facts
http://www.fbi.gov/publications.htm FBI Crime facts
http://www.trac.syr.edu/tracatf/trends/current/ U of Syracuse tracking the ATF prosecutions
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/founding.html Quotes from our Founding Fathers
http://www.archives.gov/ National Archives
http://www.archives.gov/historical-docs/ Historical documents
http://www.healylaw.com/armquote.htm Quotes from anti-gun celebrities our Founding Fathers and more
http://www.constitution.org/ Constitution Society Founding documents and comments
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/federal/fed.htm Federalist Papers Especially Note 28, 29, 45, and 78.
http://www.keepandbeararms.com and http://www.nraila.org/ for news articles
http://www.gunshowonthenet.com/ this guy reads our founding father’s documents
http://www.davekopel.org/ David Kopel’s home page
http://www.johnrlott.com/ John Lott’s webpage
http://www.dsgl.org/ Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
http://www.independent.org/aboutus/pers ... asp?id=739 Don B Kates
http://www.criminology.fsu.edu/p/faculty-gary-kleck.php and http://gunowners.org/skeptic.htm Gary Kleck
The two major studies: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm
And http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=42167

Debunking anti-gun lies of course Use the 2 major studies from above
http://www.nationalreview.com/17apr00/kopel041700.html An Army of Gun Lies
http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/schul ... erman.html Kellerman
http://johnrlott.tripod.com/attack.html , http://www.economics.adelaide.edu.au/wo ... /moody.pdf and http://www.cnsnews.com/Culture/Archive/ ... 0513b.html Ian Ayres and John Donohue
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The 2nd Amendment is an Individual Right links

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/guncon ... ment_2.htm Gallop Poll 68% According to a 2003 Gallup/NCC poll, most Americans believe that the Second Amendment protects individual firearm ownership.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/g ... &invol=259 U.S. Supreme Court UNITED STATES v. VERDUGO-URQUIDEZ,
The Preamble declares that the Constitution is ordained and established by "the people of the United States." The Second Amendment protects "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms," and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments provide that certain rights and powers are retained by and reserved to "the people."

http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/beararms/testimon.htm Testimony of Eugene Volokh at UCLA Law School. and Laurence Tribe, (Harvard Law School) on the Second Amendment,
The Second Amendment, like the First, Fourth, and Ninth Amendments, refers to a "right of the people," not a right of the states or a right of the National Guard. The First Amendment guarantees the people's right to assemble; the Fourth Amendment protects the people's right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures; the Ninth Amendment refers to the people's unenumerated rights. 1 These rights are clearly individual -- they protect "the right of the people" by protecting the right of each person. This strongly suggests that the similarly-worded Second Amendment likewise secures an individual right.

A Great historical report to the Senate on the 2nd
http://www.historycooperative.org/journ ... colm.shtml
Joyce Malcolm is a professor of history at Bentley College and senior fellow, MIT Security Studies Program.

U.S Govt official position on the 2nd http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
WHETHER THE SECOND AMENDMENT SECURES AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT Says: The Second Amendment secures a right of individuals generally, not a right of States or a right restricted to persons serving in militias.
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When anti's come up and use this argument that the second amendment applies to the National Guard, remind them that the National Guard didn't come into existance until the early 1800's!
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington
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Dr. Winston wrote:When anti's come up and use this argument that the second amendment applies to the National Guard, remind them that the National Guard didn't come into existance until the early 1800's!
Buzzzzzz! Incorrect!!! The date you're talking about is 1916.
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Allen;

I stand corrected! Early 1900's! :oops:
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Dr. Winston wrote:Allen;

I stand corrected! Early 1900's! :oops:
It's alright THIS time, just don't let it happen again! :D
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