Double LODD Westerville Ohio

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Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby dustymedic » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:38 pm

It just proves that routine things are the most dangerous. The officers were sent on a 9-1-1 hang up to a residence that had a history of domestic problems:

https://www.10tv.com/article/2-westervi ... ct-custody

http://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/tw ... esterville
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby AlanM » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:33 am

LODD?????
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby Brian D. » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:33 am

Line of duty death, Alan.
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby Chuck » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:17 am

Bad deal all around.
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby techmike » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:01 pm

^ That.
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby M-Quigley » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:08 am

The police chief gave a news conference and is claiming some people are calling in threats and obscenities.

http://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/ch ... e-gofundme

Morbizter went on to address the threats they have been receiving within the past 24 hours: “We have people calling our radio room, screaming threats, obscenities and vulgarities at our radio techs. And, quite frankly, there's a special place in hell for those people. And my wish is that it comes very soon," Morbizter said.
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby carmen fovozzo » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:41 am

Here's a dumb thought. ALl calls, And I mean all....will require officers to have to their weapons drawn as soon as they get out of their squads and until the call is verified safe..I think it would save some life's....

I can see why PD are having a hard time attracting officers.
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby JustaShooter » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:22 am

carmen fovozzo wrote:ALl calls, And I mean all....will require officers to have to their weapons drawn as soon as they get out of their squads and until the call is verified safe..

Cue the hue & cry from the citizenry at being held at gunpoint for a simple traffic infraction or other minor offense. Not to mention further entrenching the negative view of LEOs by many segments of society.

carmen fovozzo wrote:I think it would save some life's....

And likely cost others - let's face it, LEOs aren't exactly the best examples of firearm safety, and I've seen more videos than I'd like where LEOs are holding a suspect at gunpoint and it appeared to me that something startled an LEO and they reflexively fired on the suspect. Most of those cases get dismissed as "justified", whether rightfully or wrongfully.
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby carmen fovozzo » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:38 am

Surely you know the difference between gun point and at the ready...
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby Face » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:17 am

Maybe not the time and place, but there were several known reports and statements to authorities that the low-life had a gun, yet nothing was done to locate, charge and remove.
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby carmen fovozzo » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:11 am

carmen fovozzo wrote:Surely you know the difference between gun point and at the ready...


How many stops a year by LE ? MILLIONS...you're talking a small number of civilians accidentally shot by LE....compare it to LE being shot...

Does anyone know the figures on this ?
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby Javelin Man » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:24 pm

carmen fovozzo wrote:
carmen fovozzo wrote:Surely you know the difference between gun point and at the ready...


How many stops a year by LE ? MILLIONS...you're talking a small number of civilians accidentally shot by LE....compare it to LE being shot...

Does anyone know the figures on this ?

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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby carmen fovozzo » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:48 pm

Thanks...not the numbers I wanted though....How many LE accidental shootings is what I was looking for..

LE new this guy was a felon...might have been a different out come had they approached with guns at the ready....
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby JustaShooter » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:51 pm

carmen fovozzo wrote:Surely you know the difference between gun point and at the ready...

I do - and I also know that at the ready is no faster than drawing from the holster, so if you want the officer to be able to react faster, at gunpoint is the only option that shaves time off of the OODA loop so...
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Re: Double LODD Westerville Ohio

Postby carmen fovozzo » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:13 pm

Sorry I disagree....having the gun at any ready position is faster then drawing from a holster.....specially from a duty holster....
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