CA 2016 Proposition 63

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CA 2016 Proposition 63

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I decided to see what new gun control made it into California, and it appears to be within Proposition 63.

The gems are:
  • a permit required to purchase ammunition from a state licensed dealer who facilitates a background check with the CA DOJ.
  • Removal of grandfathering for "high capacity magazines".
Just goes to show that they will chip away at the rights a bit at a time..
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Re: CA 2016 Proposition 63

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If and until the SCOTUS smacks down a good many of California's gun laws, I don't ever want to go there again. Things were bad enough in that regard when I journeyed to the Los Angeles area circa 1990 to compete in early Cowboy Action matches. Hey, they only existed in a few states back then.
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Re: CA 2016 Proposition 63

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At least two other states voted on Universal background checks.
The measure was defeated in Maine by 51.0 percent of votes to 48.9 percent, or about 12,700 ballots.

Nevada voters approved a similar proposal by 50.5 percent to 49.6 percent, state election officials said.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/result ... und-checks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Clark County pretty much carried it for the state of Nevada.

Washington 1491 Passed as well
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/result ... rms-access" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Voters approved Initiative 1491 — Firearms Access — in Washington on Tuesday. The initiative calls for allowing courts to issue “extreme risk protection orders” to temporarily prevent people from owning or obtaining firearms if there is a risk of harm to themselves or others.
Due process... what is that ?
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Proposition 63 is now going into effect.

Between Proposition 63 for the ammo background checks, and Proposition 57 that redefines violent crimes to keep violent criminals on the streets, I'm really glad I don't live in California.

http://www.guns.com/2017/12/04/ammo-ret ... his-month/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas-based Defender Outdoors posted a notice last week that, since ammo purchased from a mail-order catalog or online must be shipped to a licensed vendor after the New Year, they are ceasing all direct ammunition sales to California residents effective Dec. 17.

“For the first time in California history, residents will have to go to a licensed dealer and undergo a background check when buying ammunition, says the company in a statement, pointing to the success of Proposition 63 which criminalizes the private transfer of ammo in the state.
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Perhaps the most cumbersome aspect of the new law lies in the ammunition background check provision, which will require the state to build a “massive database of criminal and mental health records,” according to Michel. “They will not be allowed to use NICS, because it is only allowed for gun background checks. So they are going to have to build a redundant NICS. New York state wrestled with this and saw that it was going to cost $100 million, and basically abandoned it.”

In fact, California already holds a criminal records database and a registered firearms database. “Those databases are riddled with errors,” Michel said. “Now they will have to create a database that is much, much bigger and will hold a lot more data, and most of the data will be useless.” He added, “Registering ammo is basically backdoor gun registration, which will be challenged in court.”
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Re: CA 2016 Proposition 63

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So... group buys and regular road trips to NV?
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