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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby JediSkipdogg » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:48 pm

When I carry I generally carry around the 4:00 position. (Right handed, so 8:00 left handed) With a small cant forward, it makes drawing pretty easy and keeps it generally concealed much better.

carmen fovozzo wrote:It would be much easier if people were not scared of guns. Then we could OC and wear Speedo's all the time.. :)


Send that one to Open Carry Texas. I'm not even sure MDA will touch that one. If they do, maybe the like photos of guys in thongs with ARs slung over their shoulders.
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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby TSiWRX » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:51 pm

One thing to remember with the 4/8-o'clock position is that if you're bending over, depending on the cover-clothing you wear, it could cause you to print quite a bit or could even raise your cover clothing over the gun.

Not to say that there's not compromises to any other "clocking," either. :) It's just something to watch out for and be conscious of, that's all.


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TSiWRX wrote:...have a training-partner sit or lay atop you and see if you can effect the draw from SOB or simply with the gun "clocked" farther towards your 6'o-clock. Again, we get to that question of "what are the odds," but on a very practical level, simply look at how Zimmerman was mounted.


Even 3:00 (or 9:00 for a lefty) could prove a bit difficult to access a firearm. Depending on how the person on top is positioned, his/her legs probably/likely/possibly could be blocking your firearm. Granted, it would be even more difficult the further back you go.


Exactly.

There's going to be instances when even appendix/inguinal carry is going to be difficult to access from, when mounted.
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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby Tru-Heathen » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:45 pm

JediSkipdogg wrote:When I carry I generally carry around the 4:00 position. (Right handed, so 8:00 left handed) With a small cant forward, it makes drawing pretty easy and keeps it generally concealed much better.

carmen fovozzo wrote:It would be much easier if people were not scared of guns. Then we could OC and wear Speedo's all the time.. :)


Send that one to Open Carry Texas. I'm not even sure MDA will touch that one. If they do, maybe the like photos of guys in thongs with ARs slung over their shoulders.




No please No ! No one wants to see either of these two (un)dressed in that fashion.

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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby Jim-in-Toledo » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:41 am

I usually carry a compact 1911 at around 4 oclock.

On Thursday afternoon I fell from approx 10 ft on to my right upper back/shoulder area, and now have 4 broken ribs on my right side, (where the pistols grip was located) and a closed fracture of my right scapula.

I have again been reminded that pain hurts.

S.O.B.? Not for me, 4 oclock hurts enough. :cry:

Be careful out there.

(I know the OP corrected sob to 8 oclock for her actual carry position, just throwing out a real world situation for consideration.) :wink:
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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby TSiWRX » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:43 am

^ Ouch! :shock:

Heal quick.
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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:16 am

I believe, while the risk of spinal damage may be increased by 6 o'clock carry, the ultimate decision lies in carrying WHEREVER causes you carry all the time.

Belly bands are an option that do not rely on pants, belts or hips.
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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby TKshooter » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:27 am

I have bought the crossbreed modular belly band.

My husband also makes me holsters so i have all the IWB and full kydex OWB holsters I could ever want.

I also bought the flash bang holster too and a shoulder holster

I like carrying on the hip the best, but having curves sometimes makes that difficult to conceal.

I wanted to make sure I had every type so I could to ensure that I carry all of the time.

It is hard- these "other holsters" have downsides. The flash bang I'm sure is better if I carried something smaller than a Shield. But people told me if you are larger chested its easier to conceal- found out not entirely true- if you are larger chested- putting a gun in there makes it pretty full lol.

Belly band- I went with the modular since the others had me worried about sufficiently covering the trigger guard. It does work when I don't want to wear a belt or sweats- but it makes a velcro noise when I move.

Even the shoulder holster I found to be not very convenient and hurt my shoulders by the end of the day.

So this hip is the "sweet spot" for me, and now that I am carrying behind the hip and the grip is concealing better- I feel so much better in public that I am now concealing better.
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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby curmudgeon3 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:23 pm

Watch your six. :)
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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby carmen fovozzo » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:35 pm

Not only watch your "6" but make sure your aware that your mode of carry does not mess your memorie reflex's when you have to draw..multiple carry positions can be tricky....
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Re: Small of Back Convert

Postby TSiWRX » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:11 pm

carmen fovozzo wrote:make sure your aware that your mode of carry does not mess your memorie reflex's when you have to draw..multiple carry positions can be tricky....


^ That's a biggie.

Remember how you're carrying for the day - and train to be proficient in all of your different carrying methods/guns.

Be honest with yourself as to your abilities and also ability to train to the differing methods.
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