Gimme all your ammo!
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- gaptrick
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Gimme all your ammo!
A guy at the shop relays this story about his brother's encounter earlier today while headed to the range to meet a buddy...
Cleveland cop pulls him over in the old Brooklyn neighborhood. The fella informs. All well and good. Cop asks if there are any others. He informs about 2 empty .45's in the trunk under lock and key (was checking a repair in one and the other was a recently purchased used gun he hadn't fired yet). All good again.
Here's where it gets screwed up...
Cop says what's in the bag. Guy answers its his ammo. 250 rounds of .45 reloads (his). The cop tells him THATS TOO MUCH AMMO and that he CAN'T BE DRIVING AROUND WITH THAT MUCH AMMO!!!!
He gets a WARNING for a rolling stop sign, the cop STEALS HIS AMMO and gets a Have a nice day and was gone...What are his options here short of a lawyer...
Cleveland cop pulls him over in the old Brooklyn neighborhood. The fella informs. All well and good. Cop asks if there are any others. He informs about 2 empty .45's in the trunk under lock and key (was checking a repair in one and the other was a recently purchased used gun he hadn't fired yet). All good again.
Here's where it gets screwed up...
Cop says what's in the bag. Guy answers its his ammo. 250 rounds of .45 reloads (his). The cop tells him THATS TOO MUCH AMMO and that he CAN'T BE DRIVING AROUND WITH THAT MUCH AMMO!!!!
He gets a WARNING for a rolling stop sign, the cop STEALS HIS AMMO and gets a Have a nice day and was gone...What are his options here short of a lawyer...
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
Why do these stories always get here third-hand? That makes me leery it actually happened, to be honest. But assuming it's true, the victim should report it to that cop's command structure. Start with immediate supervisor and keep moving up the chain. Covertly audio tape all the meetings. Our OFCC Vice President still works for that department I think, get hold of him too.
I had to push back against a Cincinnati officer once, long ago. Without an eyewitness to the incident, and me refusing to let off the bosses, the long process (it took three years) to get the guy terminated wouldn't have been successful.
I had to push back against a Cincinnati officer once, long ago. Without an eyewitness to the incident, and me refusing to let off the bosses, the long process (it took three years) to get the guy terminated wouldn't have been successful.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
This was my first reaction, as well.Brian D. wrote:Why do these stories always get here third-hand?
Assuming the story was true, one of two things is happening. 1) The officer is simply stealing property and there is no recording (unless the officer is a tremendous idiot). In that case, it is exceptionally unlikely the property will ever be returned without some evidence that the officer is a criminal. 2) The officer is making a "good faith" error and provided a property receipt for the confiscated items and they'll be returned once the department (or law director) realizes the error.
But, again, I find option 3 the most likely - this story was heavily embelleshed and/or didn't actually happen.
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
Go back and find the guy. Ask for his brother's name. Request public records involving the brother and determine the name of the LEO.gaptrick wrote:A guy at the shop relays this story about his brother's encounter earlier today ...
Can't find "the guy"? Thread's done.
"Guy" can't remember his brother's name? Thread's done.
Find "the guy" and get his brother's name? Awesome!
Let us know when the city fills your public record request. Then we provide the brother with the officer's name and suggest he go file a complaint...and that we'll be happy to go with him.
Somehow, I don't think we'll make it this far.
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
It's a toss-up as to which is less reliable:
- Cops speaking about criminal law.
- "Guys in gun stores" talking about much of anything.
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
I would of said to the cop show me the section of the O.R.C. that states how much ammo I can have.deanimator wrote:It's a toss-up as to which is less reliable:
- Cops speaking about criminal law.
- "Guys in gun stores" talking about much of anything.
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
Police Officers steal ammo all the time..
Life is full of God given coincidences..
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
I'm a reloader...so perhaps I'll load some compressed charges of TNT in my cartridges and allow the cops to steal them, Boy would they get a bang out of thatcarmen fovozzo wrote:Police Officers steal ammo all the time..
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
Why am I suddenly reminded of the Saliva song "Click Click Boom"?glocksmith wrote:
I'm a reloader...so perhaps I'll load some compressed charges of TNT in my cartridges and allow the cops to steal them, Boy would they get a bang out of that
I've had consistently good results with ether.
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
Never heard of the band or the song...so I had to Youtube it. I didn't "get it"Bianchi? wrote:Why am I suddenly reminded of the Saliva song "Click Click Boom"?glocksmith wrote:
I'm a reloader...so perhaps I'll load some compressed charges of TNT in my cartridges and allow the cops to steal them, Boy would they get a bang out of that
Give em' Hell Pike!!!
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
Out of curiosity.. Beyond informing, are you required to answer the officer's questions about "any others in the car" if they're not loaded? What about answering regarding the contents of a bag? I know that part of having the CHL is "obeying lawful orders", but I always wonder where that line is drawn..
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
Two little words...Curzyk wrote:Out of curiosity.. Beyond informing, are you required to answer the officer's questions about "any others in the car" if they're not loaded? What about answering regarding the contents of a bag? I know that part of having the CHL is "obeying lawful orders", but I always wonder where that line is drawn..
"Officer safety"
I would answer truthfully and deal with any police corruption later.
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
You're not required to answer any questions at all. You're required to notify. You're required to provide driver's license and registration if asked for. There is no legal duty to answer questions.Curzyk wrote:Out of curiosity.. Beyond informing, are you required to answer the officer's questions about "any others in the car" if they're not loaded? What about answering regarding the contents of a bag? I know that part of having the CHL is "obeying lawful orders", but I always wonder where that line is drawn..
Important to remember that you cannot lie. If you don't want to answer, don't, but don't think that incorrect answers are ok.
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
...assuming that it actually happened.steves 50de wrote:I would of said to the cop show me the section of the O.R.C. that states how much ammo I can have.deanimator wrote:It's a toss-up as to which is less reliable:
- Cops speaking about criminal law.
- "Guys in gun stores" talking about much of anything.
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Re: Gimme all your ammo!
Although it's possible, maybe even likely, that the story has been 'embellished' it's not like it's impossible either. Earlier this year a NYC officer was found guilty of stealing money from drivers' wallets during traffic stops.deanimator wrote:...assuming that it actually happened.