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techguy85 wrote:...you'll see that I stupidly walk into the cloud of it still lingering as well.
TSiWRX wrote:techguy85 wrote:...you'll see that I stupidly walk into the cloud of it still lingering as well.
First, as a married man of many years, myself - I'd never hear the end of that.....![]()
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Second, and more seriously -
Given the fact that you walked into the residual cloud, how does the choice between aerosol versus gel come into play for you, given your vision limitations? Can you deliver a gel with sufficient accuracy, given the range of these devices?
Whirlwind06 wrote:So does he feel like he could have gotten off a shot?
Mr. Glock wrote:That was interesting to watch. How long did it take him to recover?
Whirlwind06 wrote:So does he feel like he could have gotten off a shot?
Brian D. wrote:Whirlwind06 wrote:So does he feel like he could have gotten off a shot?
He was certainly still able to draw, and of course fire in some direction. When we talk about incapacitating someone, that ain't quick or effective enough. My point being I wouldn't use pepper spray against a gun unless it's all I had.
techguy85 wrote:I selected the fog pattern on the advice of my pepper spray instructor (Greg Elifritz from Active Response Training) for that very reason.
It does put it out in a pretty wide area but the advantage to that is that I can actually see the spray so can walk it on target if I'm not on target to begin with.
I've actually been sprayed with it myself before so even if I do get some on me I know what to expect.
It is extremely unpleasant as I said in the video but if you know what to expect you can deal with it.
sodbuster95 wrote:I've been sprayed many times by the Army for training (and once while on duty because a partner was an idiot). Part of the training regimen involves maintaining firearms retention, engaging suspects using unarmed self-defense tactics (including putting hand irons on them), and using a baton.
All while suffering from the spray.
It sucks.
Good training, though. My only criticism is that he dropped his sidearm after the training shot. I understand why (because getting sprayed sucks), but he should have maintained positive control. In a "real life" scenario, he would have just given up his weapon to the assailant.
sodbuster95 wrote:I've been sprayed many times by the Army for training (and once while on duty because a partner was an idiot). Part of the training regimen involves maintaining firearms retention, engaging suspects using unarmed self-defense tactics (including putting hand irons on them), and using a baton.
All while suffering from the spray.
It sucks.
Good training, though. My only criticism is that he dropped his sidearm after the training shot. I understand why (because getting sprayed sucks), but he should have maintained positive control. In a "real life" scenario, he would have just given up his weapon to the assailant.
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