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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby deanimator » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:59 am

Stryker74 wrote:Bullet wounds are trophies for the hardcore gangbangers.

Only because they're notoriously bad shots.

It's not much of a "trophy" if it takes an exhumation order for anybody to see it...
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby BobK » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:23 pm

deanimator wrote:
Stryker74 wrote:Bullet wounds are trophies for the hardcore gangbangers.

Only because they're notoriously bad shots..

Also because a pistol round is not as lethal as common wisdom would believe. Not when 4 out of 5 pistol wounds are non-lethal.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby JustaShooter » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:29 pm

BobK wrote:
deanimator wrote:
Stryker74 wrote:Bullet wounds are trophies for the hardcore gangbangers.

Only because they're notoriously bad shots..

Also because a pistol round is not as lethal as common wisdom would believe. Not when 4 out of 5 pistol wounds are non-lethal.

This ^^^

Unless the shooter scores a CNS hit or medical care is delayed long enough for the shootee to bleed out, there is a very good chance of survival.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby steves 50de » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:41 pm

deanimator wrote:
MyWifeSaidYes wrote:TRAINING ALERT !!

DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE FRICKIN' FUEL HOSE !![/i][/b]

Actually, (especially in Chiraq) I care VERY MUCH about the fuel hose.

That's a powerful chemical weapon you're holding in your hand. Don't rule out its use in your defense.

When I'm unarmed in Chiraq and pumping gas, I'm ALWAYS prepared to drench an assailant in gasoline.

The same goes here even when I'm carrying a gun.

Don't forget the bic lighter. Remember your holding a flame thrower. :wink:
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby deanimator » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:27 am

steves 50de wrote:Don't forget the bic lighter. Remember your holding a flame thrower. :wink:

Nah, you just let him take a shot at you.

Self-serve gas => self-server BBQ! :D
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby The German » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:18 pm

Hmm - I mean there is not a lot to begin with - but how do they get all the brain mass back in?

JustaShooter wrote:
BobK wrote:
deanimator wrote:Only because they're notoriously bad shots..

Also because a pistol round is not as lethal as common wisdom would believe. Not when 4 out of 5 pistol wounds are non-lethal.

This ^^^

Unless the shooter scores a CNS hit or medical care is delayed long enough for the shootee to bleed out, there is a very good chance of survival.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:47 pm

I know it sounds reasonable to use (or threaten to use) gasoline as a deterrent or weapon, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Once you start splashing the gasoline towards the bad guy, there are two BIG things you have to worry about.

One is where the bad guy is going to go. If he ain't right in the head, or if he's really smart, he's going to come toward YOU as quickly as he can. Then what?

Second, if you're recommending gasoline as a weapon, and you're being serious about it...you've probably never played with gasoline.

The fumes from gasoline are HEAVY. Take a dinner plate, fill it with water and drop one drop of food coloring into the center of the plate. Notice how quickly the color spreads out in all directions? That's what happens with gasoline vapor...you know, the flammable gasoline vapor.

Just one quick squirt of fuel onto the ground will create enough flammable vapor to completely cover an area the size of your car.

Make sure your bad guy is downwind from you.

Make sure the fuel island is not.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby Six Shooter » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:05 pm

Sounds like an average encounter, in a crappy part of town.

The bigger question is.... Vending machine food or Taco Bell ??

Those choices will both kill you.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby Klingon00 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:28 pm

I'm glad it worked out in the end.

I'm a little surprised you didn't offer to introduce his posterior to Mr. Fire Extinguisher. :lol: I hear he can be rather convincing and has somewhat of a reputation in that neighborhood.

I've had interesting encounters with folks in neighborhoods you wouldn't expect like the Giant Eagle parking lot in Upper Arlington at night. Fortunately the guy who was asking me for "help" was more easily dissuaded by my firm and less than cheerful attitude and quickly moved on to other places as I went in to inform the officer on duty of the aggressive pan handler outside.

Keep your guard up even in low crime areas. There's no truly safe places out there. Even in Upper Arlington where the average LEO response time is under 3 minutes... even that can seem like a lifetime when seconds matter.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby djthomas » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:20 am

One need not involve fire or even completely douse a person to use it as a weapon. Sprayed towards the face it is almost immediately blinding and full of fun respiratory effects. That said it still wouldn't be my primary choice of weapon.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby deanimator » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:34 am

MyWifeSaidYes wrote:One is where the bad guy is going to go. If he ain't right in the head, or if he's really smart, he's going to come toward YOU as quickly as he can. Then what?

I'm going to spray him in the face and eyes. How's he going know where I am?
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby deanimator » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:35 am

djthomas wrote:One need not involve fire or even completely douse a person to use it as a weapon. Sprayed towards the face it is almost immediately blinding and full of fun respiratory effects. That said it still wouldn't be my primary choice of weapon.

In Chiraq, it's about your ONLY choice of weapon, other than the car itself.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby rimfireOH » Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:26 am

Looks like this taxi driver in Tallmadge successfully used the gasoline tactic to his benefit:
The 41-year-old Akron man told officers he was pumping gas when a masked person approached him with a knife, demanding money, according to a news release.

The taxi driver reacted by spraying gasoline on the robber, the release states. The masked robber left with two others in a tan Honda.
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby gaptrick » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:46 am

Evan... Had you not been armed that morning, would you have still shopped for gas and gone to that "questionable" area?

Though "Tweed's Iron Triangle" is something to follow, I must say that I believe I subconsciously feel the triangle a bit tamer than I should when armed. Although in reality, I know it not to be the case.

Being armed changes NOTHING in the environment, but will offer me a FALSE sense of security.

I am glad you were armed regardless of your answer....
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Re: I knew better than to stop for gas that time of night

Postby carmen fovozzo » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:42 pm

Good question...I would not..
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