What is sufficient for carry?
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What is sufficient for carry?
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Hello, everyone. After reading this article, it's brought up a bunch of mixed emotions. Please don't hate me for having an opinion. I support the 2nd, as well as the other amendments and Constitution. Although I mostly carry concealed, sometimes I do open carry... a handgun. Yes, I do carry everyday. But, what to think of guys who open carry semi-rifles and tactical shotguns to say a restaurant, Walmart, a movie theater, the doctor's office, a Children's Festival, etc? Sure, they are not breaking any laws if they qualify to own a gun, but why carry a combat rifle or shotgun just to go grocery shopping? I think this does NOT help the cause. We are still trying convince people that we have a right to carry a handgun and right to defend ourselves, then a guy walks into McDonalds with a AR-308, a tactical vest with 6 AR 30rd mags, a Glock 21 on the hip, 4 mags in the vest for it, and level IIIA body armor with level IV ceramic plates simply to order a Big Mac combo and a kid's meal for his daughter. His buddy walks in behind him, carrying an AK AMD-65 on a sling, tac vest, mags in every pocket, wearing a ballistic helmet, just to order 2 apple pies:lol:. Sure you can, but why do it? Carrying a semi-auto rifle, long gun, etc. on a shooting range, private property on your rural land, or walking the streets of Syria or Ukraine, understandable, but carrying it publically for no reason other than to support the 2nd amendment right, I'm not sure it's reasonable. Does this help or hurt us?
Please give your opinion. Also, please respect others difference in opinions. We all support the 2nd and the Constitution. Yes, I love my "assault"/semi-auto rifles and shotguns. But, I carry them at the range, or hunting trips, or at Knob Creek, etc. Handungs are my EDC. If I lived in a rural area, maybe I'd carry a long gun on my property. But to Wally World with a 308 FAL just to pick up deodorant and frozen broccoli?
Hello, everyone. After reading this article, it's brought up a bunch of mixed emotions. Please don't hate me for having an opinion. I support the 2nd, as well as the other amendments and Constitution. Although I mostly carry concealed, sometimes I do open carry... a handgun. Yes, I do carry everyday. But, what to think of guys who open carry semi-rifles and tactical shotguns to say a restaurant, Walmart, a movie theater, the doctor's office, a Children's Festival, etc? Sure, they are not breaking any laws if they qualify to own a gun, but why carry a combat rifle or shotgun just to go grocery shopping? I think this does NOT help the cause. We are still trying convince people that we have a right to carry a handgun and right to defend ourselves, then a guy walks into McDonalds with a AR-308, a tactical vest with 6 AR 30rd mags, a Glock 21 on the hip, 4 mags in the vest for it, and level IIIA body armor with level IV ceramic plates simply to order a Big Mac combo and a kid's meal for his daughter. His buddy walks in behind him, carrying an AK AMD-65 on a sling, tac vest, mags in every pocket, wearing a ballistic helmet, just to order 2 apple pies:lol:. Sure you can, but why do it? Carrying a semi-auto rifle, long gun, etc. on a shooting range, private property on your rural land, or walking the streets of Syria or Ukraine, understandable, but carrying it publically for no reason other than to support the 2nd amendment right, I'm not sure it's reasonable. Does this help or hurt us?
Please give your opinion. Also, please respect others difference in opinions. We all support the 2nd and the Constitution. Yes, I love my "assault"/semi-auto rifles and shotguns. But, I carry them at the range, or hunting trips, or at Knob Creek, etc. Handungs are my EDC. If I lived in a rural area, maybe I'd carry a long gun on my property. But to Wally World with a 308 FAL just to pick up deodorant and frozen broccoli?
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
Here in NE Ohio, my Smith 36 is more than enough.
Were I, through some unimaginable catastrophe, find myself back in my old neighborhood in apartheid Chicago, I'd want to carry a wz63, 9x18mm Skorpion, or MAC-11C, although a Mauser 712 "Schnellfeuer" would be more elegant.
Were I, through some unimaginable catastrophe, find myself back in my old neighborhood in apartheid Chicago, I'd want to carry a wz63, 9x18mm Skorpion, or MAC-11C, although a Mauser 712 "Schnellfeuer" would be more elegant.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
A handgun is sufficient for EDC. Impromptu Long Gun carry is giving easy wins to Bloomberg's nanny groups.
I support any type of carry and I think that all forms of carry should remain legal and protected. However, there is a time and a place for everything.
We can squabble amongst ourselves in our clubhouses, but when it's time to get to work, we need to stand together.
I support any type of carry and I think that all forms of carry should remain legal and protected. However, there is a time and a place for everything.
We can squabble amongst ourselves in our clubhouses, but when it's time to get to work, we need to stand together.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
Just a handgun most of the time.... BIG one , but.... (OK, it's an Officer's-sized 1911.)
However, I wish I could keep my Mossy in the car, ready to go. Every once in a while the wife demands that we stop someplace that's seriously hazardous (in my view), and....
Overall, IMHO, we shouldn't be someplace that more firepower is needed, although sometimes such situations can appear out of nowhere, and there's really no such thing as a "bad area" - your own living room can become a combat zone real fast if the BG's decide it's your day....
I would like to see the unlicensed folks able to carry a loaded gun in their vehicles in some convenient way. OC is protected by the Constitution, but the concept of making a firearm in a vehicle "concealed" is kind of nonsense. "Plain Sight", which we all hated, might fly if somebody could afford the Court action....
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However, I wish I could keep my Mossy in the car, ready to go. Every once in a while the wife demands that we stop someplace that's seriously hazardous (in my view), and....
Overall, IMHO, we shouldn't be someplace that more firepower is needed, although sometimes such situations can appear out of nowhere, and there's really no such thing as a "bad area" - your own living room can become a combat zone real fast if the BG's decide it's your day....
I would like to see the unlicensed folks able to carry a loaded gun in their vehicles in some convenient way. OC is protected by the Constitution, but the concept of making a firearm in a vehicle "concealed" is kind of nonsense. "Plain Sight", which we all hated, might fly if somebody could afford the Court action....
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
I love the idea of a ready-to-go trunk gun.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
Your second and third option are out of reach for 99% of us when you consider most machine guns cost at least $10,000
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
If there were a LIKE button....I'd be pushing it....rDigital wrote:A handgun is sufficient for EDC. Impromptu Long Gun carry is giving easy wins to Bloomberg's nanny groups.
I support any type of carry and I think that all forms of carry should remain legal and protected. However, there is a time and a place for everything.
We can squabble amongst ourselves in our clubhouses, but when it's time to get to work, we need to stand together.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
A handgun is sufficient IMHO. That does not mean that other options should be illegal. Actually, I don't even agree with the concept of an "illegal gun". A pistol, or two, and a SBS in the car/truck would be my ideal.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
You can scare the sheep a little bit, to get them to move in your direction. Scare them too much, and the huddle up.
Like those Starbucks idiots....
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
I voted "handgun is sufficient" right now for purposes of this poll; however, if the MSM would for some reason decide to start reporting the political truth at some point in the future, I might want to change my vote.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
That's not fair.Mr. Glock wrote:You can scare the sheep a little bit, to get them to move in your direction. Scare them too much, and the huddle up.
Like those Starbucks idiots....
Those "idiots" had been OC'ing their long guns at Starbucks and other places for years.
It was the "idiots" at Moms Demand Action that started the national boycott against Starbucks.
Yes, the firearms owners retaliated with "Starbuck Appreciation Days" and drew too much attention to the issue...but it was the Moms in need of some Action who caused it to be an issue.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
And 99% of us are too sensible to blow 10 or 20 grand on a weapon...just because it fires a wee bit faster than it's under $1000 variantsconcreteguy wrote:Your second and third option are out of reach for 99% of us when you consider most machine guns cost at least $10,000
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
What he said.Impromptu Long Gun carry is giving easy wins to Bloomberg's nanny groups.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
I think it is quite fair. Those idiots had not been OCing long guns into Starbucks in noticeable numbers. Had the response to Moms Demand Disarmament been handled better, had there not been a Starbucks Appreciation Day where long guns were carried, many carelessly, Into Starbucks in droves, we would not have the situation that we do today. It likely would have gone like Staples. Quietly fizzled with no anti-gun repercussions.MyWifeSaidYes wrote:That's not fair.Mr. Glock wrote:You can scare the sheep a little bit, to get them to move in your direction. Scare them too much, and the huddle up.
Like those Starbucks idiots....
Those "idiots" had been OC'ing their long guns at Starbucks and other places for years.
It was the "idiots" at Moms Demand Action that started the national boycott against Starbucks.
Yes, the firearms owners retaliated with "Starbuck Appreciation Days" and drew too much attention to the issue...but it was the Moms in need of some Action who caused it to be an issue.
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Re: What is sufficient for carry?
I believe with all my heart that if people keep open carrying long guns we will see legislation banning open carry in Ohio.
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