Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
Moderators: Chuck, Mustang380gal, Coordinators, Moderators
- ScottyPotty
- OFCC Member
- Posts: 1984
- Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:27 pm
- Location: Akron
Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
The other night, my wife and I were pulling out of Walmart and I noticed a LEO behind me. The way he was tailing me I was wondering if he was going to light me up. Once they came on I pulled over and put my hands on the wheel, dome light on and window down.
Officer: Good evening sir
Me: Hello, I have a CHL and I'm currently carrying.
Officer: OK, where is your firearm?
Me: right front pocket
Officer: License, insurance, registration, CHL License
Me: Its in my back right pocket.
Officer: Go ahead and reach for it.
Officer: What are you doing tonight
Me: My wife and I were at Walmart
Meanwhile another LEO comes up on the passenger side and scares my wife. She asked him why are we pulled over - he says "I don't know, I'm just here for backup"
Officer: how is your driving record?
Me: Perfect, why are we being pulled over?
Officer: The placement of your license plate holder makes your license plate sticker hard to read.
Me:
Me: That's odd, I've had this truck 8 years and never had a problem. I just put a new 2 year sticker on it a couple days ago.
Officer: Ill be right back.
Officer: He comes back and says "I'm going to let you off with a warning. We are on a lookout for a black truck at Walmart but I like to have a reason to pull over someone. You will probably never have a problem with the placement of your sticker. Have a good night"
It was nice that the gun was a non-issue.
Officer: Good evening sir
Me: Hello, I have a CHL and I'm currently carrying.
Officer: OK, where is your firearm?
Me: right front pocket
Officer: License, insurance, registration, CHL License
Me: Its in my back right pocket.
Officer: Go ahead and reach for it.
Officer: What are you doing tonight
Me: My wife and I were at Walmart
Meanwhile another LEO comes up on the passenger side and scares my wife. She asked him why are we pulled over - he says "I don't know, I'm just here for backup"
Officer: how is your driving record?
Me: Perfect, why are we being pulled over?
Officer: The placement of your license plate holder makes your license plate sticker hard to read.
Me:
Me: That's odd, I've had this truck 8 years and never had a problem. I just put a new 2 year sticker on it a couple days ago.
Officer: Ill be right back.
Officer: He comes back and says "I'm going to let you off with a warning. We are on a lookout for a black truck at Walmart but I like to have a reason to pull over someone. You will probably never have a problem with the placement of your sticker. Have a good night"
It was nice that the gun was a non-issue.
A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader. Samuel Adams
-
- OFCC Patron Member
- Posts: 889
- Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:52 am
- Location: Norton, Ohio (Summit County)
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
Ok, so, if he agrees that the sticker placement will probably never be a problem -- what was the warning for? Is it a problem or isn't it?Officer: He comes back and says "I'm going to let you off with a warning. We are on a lookout for a black truck at Walmart but I like to have a reason to pull over someone. You will probably never have a problem with the placement of your sticker. Have a good night"
-
- Posts: 2175
- Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:26 am
- Location: Mount Juliet TN
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
Yeah, I'm throwing the BS flag on that one.....now where's that emoticon ???!?ScottyPotty wrote:
...Me: Perfect, why are we being pulled over?
Officer: The placement of your license plate holder makes your license plate sticker hard to read.
Me:
Me: That's odd, I've had this truck 8 years and never had a problem. I just put a new 2 year sticker on it a couple days ago.
Officer: Ill be right back.
Officer: He comes back and says "I'm going to let you off with a warning. We are on a lookout for a black truck at Walmart but I like to have a reason to pull over someone. You will probably never have a problem with the placement of your sticker. Have a good night"....
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE
- ScottyPotty
- OFCC Member
- Posts: 1984
- Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:27 pm
- Location: Akron
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
Why do you think Im lying?
A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader. Samuel Adams
-
- Posts: 2175
- Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:26 am
- Location: Mount Juliet TN
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
The cop's lame-o excuse for stopping you.ScottyPotty wrote:Why do you think Im lying?
Not you.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE
-
- Posts: 344
- Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:00 pm
- Contact:
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
The sticker has to be unobstructed, it's a valid reason for a stop, but it's not something you would ever be cited for (at least I would hope not).
They were looking for a different black truck.
I think he was telling you he would rather stop you for the sticker violation than just because your truck matched the description of whatever they were looking for.
They were looking for a different black truck.
I think he was telling you he would rather stop you for the sticker violation than just because your truck matched the description of whatever they were looking for.
- evan price
- Forum Janitor
- Posts: 9044
- Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:23 pm
- Location: Westfield, Ohio
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
Nobody thinks you are lying, it's a comment on the p.c. for the vehicle stop which, while technically valid, is a stretch. Once they determined you weren't the droids they were looking for, p.c. for the stop became irrelevant. It was an official stop most certainly with a LEADS inquiry, which will show as warning issued for minor vehicle code violation. They can't just randomly run people through LEADS theoretically.ScottyPotty wrote:Why do you think Im lying?
"20% accurate as usual, Morty."
Striking down evil with the mighty sword of teamwork and the hammer of not bickering!
Carpe Noctem- we get more done after 2 am than most people do all day.
Striking down evil with the mighty sword of teamwork and the hammer of not bickering!
Carpe Noctem- we get more done after 2 am than most people do all day.
-
- OFCC Patron Member
- Posts: 2281
- Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:50 am
- Location: North East Ohio
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
"These is not the droids we are looking for".... "Move along"
- Cosmos
- OFCC Member
- Posts: 274
- Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:27 am
- Location: SW Ohio
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
I believe Evan nailed it in he needed something to enter for the LEADS inquiry.evan price wrote:Nobody thinks you are lying, it's a comment on the p.c. for the vehicle stop which, while technically valid, is a stretch. Once they determined you weren't the droids they were looking for, p.c. for the stop became irrelevant. It was an official stop most certainly with a LEADS inquiry, which will show as warning issued for minor vehicle code violation. They can't just randomly run people through LEADS theoretically.ScottyPotty wrote:Why do you think Im lying?
P.S. - I got a chuckle out of the droids reference. Reminded me of this version: http://youtu.be/56_S0WeTkzs
NRA Benefactor
If the police are not present to stop a crime they are just armed historians.
A 1911 beats 9-1-1 every time.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity - Hanlon's razor
If the police are not present to stop a crime they are just armed historians.
A 1911 beats 9-1-1 every time.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity - Hanlon's razor
- ScottyPotty
- OFCC Member
- Posts: 1984
- Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:27 pm
- Location: Akron
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
I beleave docachna explained it. sorry for the misunderstanding. sometimes that happens on the internet.
A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader. Samuel Adams
-
- OFCC Member
- Posts: 10911
- Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:41 pm
- Location: Mercer County, Ohio - what is yours?
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
That is some eye sight the Officer has!
Abandon ye all HOPE!
- Bombarde32
- OFCC Patron Member
- Posts: 274
- Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:33 pm
- Location: Columbus
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
I would have become flustered, I think, trying to carry on a conversation with officer #1 while trying to find an opening to notify officer #2 at the passenger window. Was that an issue for you?
- diamondsun
- Posts: 514
- Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:10 pm
- Location: Medway, Oh. -Clark County
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
With that excuse for pulling you over, you should have asked for his license...
To America's Citizen Soldier; Who answered the call; Climbed the hill; Paid the price; And never let us down.
- JediSkipdogg
- Posts: 10257
- Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:03 pm
- Location: Batavia
- Contact:
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
That's one of the most BS reasons and the guys I work with use it a lot. Technically, per the ORC, none of your sticker can be covered. It doesn't matter if it's 100% readable, if a corner is covered it's a violation and they love using it.
Carrying Concealed Handguns - Signage Answers
Ohio Concealed Carry Classes in S/W Ohio
http://www.ProShootersTraining.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I am not a lawyer. My answers are based on research, knowledge, and are generally backed up with facts, the Ohio Revised Code, or the United States Code.
Ohio Concealed Carry Classes in S/W Ohio
http://www.ProShootersTraining.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I am not a lawyer. My answers are based on research, knowledge, and are generally backed up with facts, the Ohio Revised Code, or the United States Code.
- Werz
- OFCC Patron Member
- Posts: 5506
- Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:37 am
Re: Got pulled over coming out of Walmart
Unilluminated license plate light + Whren et al. v. United States = Easy Traffic StopJediSkipdogg wrote:That's one of the most BS reasons and the guys I work with use it a lot. Technically, per the ORC, none of your sticker can be covered. It doesn't matter if it's 100% readable, if a corner is covered it's a violation and they love using it.
How often do people check to see it their license plate lights are working?
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.