Question on Traffic Stop

[Harleywood]

I would think its best to say you have a CHL and avoid the possibility of a hassle or being falsely arrested.

[Dave44142]

No. You are only required to notify law enforcement that you have a Concealed Handgun License (CHL) if you have a loaded handgun with you. However, not all police officers understand that, so some people will notify them anyway and tell them they are not armed at the time.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I do question why the people that pass our laws make up such as this.. We all know that people that can not pass a background check do carrie and they are not going to notify, Therefore a police person must expect that Everyone may be armed when they make a traffic stop... so the idea that some one that does have a license to carrie must notify is foolish...

[Brian D.]

I do question why the people that pass our laws make up such as this.. We all know that people that can not pass a background check do carrie and they are not going to notify, Therefore a police person must expect that Everyone may be armed when they make a traffic stop... so the idea that some one that does have a license to carrie must notify is foolish...

A certain percentage of our legislators have mush (I'm being TOS compliant) for brains. They emote to the point of not thinking AT ALL, on any subject. Unfortunately they get to tinker with the language of these bills as they go through the sausage-making process of becoming laws.

[Tweed Ring]

Other elected officials may be well-meaning, but were swept up by the approach of various lobbyists.

[MyWifeSaidYes]

I would think its best to say you have a CHL and avoid the possibility of a hassle or being falsely arrested.

And you would be entitled to think that.

Other people might see this as the LEO not knowing or following the law, or even as an invasion of privacy or a violation of your civil rights.

If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about, right?

You don't mind if they search your car. It avoids the hassle.

And when they want to come into your home, just to make sure you don't have anything illegal there, you won't stop them. Don't want to give them any hassle.

"Papers, please!" Why, they asked so nicely, how could you refuse?

[MyWifeSaidYes]

Sorry, Harleywood.

Didn't mean to just dump that on you.

Yes, you can always choose to give up more information than is required of you. The police seem to like confessions.

I choose to give them only the information that is required by law.

If I'm not carrying, they can take notification and [omitted to preclude moderator action]!! Twice!!

I am never worried about hassles and I have no worries of false arrest. Some people do not have this flexibility.

Besides, I hear some jails have great bologna sandwiches!

Welcome to the forum.

[fisher3]

Harleywood wrote:
I would think its best to say you have a CHL and avoid the possibility of a hassle or being falsely arrested.

I tend to look at this a bit differently than most. I fully expect others to disagree. I think about 2 things regarding info I share with LEO that is not required by law such as that you have a CHL but are not presently carrying.

1. If the officer is polite, professional and general curteous, I am much more inclined to same something. I am not required to say good day either but I probably will in those situations

2. The other situation is harder because I agree with MWSY about not letting things grow unchecked. However, some officers are so skidish ill informed and poorly trained that I worry they may see I have a CHL and if I have not told them there response could be to shoot me by mistake convinced I am carrying a weapon. It is clearly nonsense but I do think I lot of officers think that someone with a CHL that does not tell them is intentionally hiding something.

[phillip]

1. If the officer is polite, professional and general curteous, I am much more inclined to same something. I am not required to say good day either but I probably will in those situations

up until reading your #2 below, I agreed.

2. The other situation is harder because I agree with MWSY about not letting things grow unchecked. However, some officers are so skidish ill informed and poorly trained that I worry they may see I have a CHL and if I have not told them there response could be to shoot me by mistake convinced I am carrying a weapon. It is clearly nonsense but I do think I lot of officers think that someone with a CHL that does not tell them is intentionally hiding something.
fisher3

wow. heavy stuff. cop might shoot you because you have chl and did not notify w/o a weapon....

After reading this, it has completely reversed my mindset: I will NeVER EVER notify w/o a weapon now!! I refuse to live a life of FEAR that a dumb cop may shoot me for following the law and not notifying! NEVER!

[deanimator]

2. The other situation is harder because I agree with MWSY about not letting things grow unchecked. However, some officers are so skidish ill informed and poorly trained that I worry they may see I have a CHL and if I have not told them there response could be to shoot me by mistake convinced I am carrying a weapon. It is clearly nonsense but I do think I lot of officers think that someone with a CHL that does not tell them is intentionally hiding something.

If that happens, my mother will get her condo paid off and my cousin will get one of her own. My two best friends will hound the shooter to his grave, destroying him financially.

If I wanted to be coerced by thugs with guns, I'd move to North Korea.

[mreising]

If I wanted to be coerced by thugs with guns, I'd move to North Korea.

... or back to Chicago..

[deanimator]

If I wanted to be coerced by thugs with guns, I'd move to North Korea.

... or back to Chicago..

Apparently they've gotten the message that neither Weis nor McCarthy "had their back", so apart from some typical financial corruption, the Chicago PD has been keeping a relatively low profile these days.

Apart from that, I suspect the Korean food is better on Lawrence Ave. than anywhere in North Korea. The Korean girls are probably prettier there too... unless you like emaciated girls with malnutrition induced mental retardation...

[Harleywood]

Ok I get it..lol..
I am new at guns at least lately I am ..I just reserved my space for my CHL on jan 12th..(wish me luck). So maybe look at this from a newbies point of view. I would love to stick it to the man but I have to tell you I live in CANTON,OH does that ring a bell ....lol..thanks for the info I will take into consideration.

Harleywood

[evan price]

Thanks for the answers...reason I asked is because I was stopped and not carrying a gun and the State Patrolman asked if there was anything I forgot to tell him. I said I was not carrying and he said he could arrest me if he wanted to. I did not argue...but thought he was wrong. I just said I was sorry and he let me go.

In my experience State Troopers are the most often guilty of this. There's good Staties but most of them I've met tend to be...south bound ends of north bound horses.

[Werz]

Thanks for the answers...reason I asked is because I was stopped and not carrying a gun and the State Patrolman asked if there was anything I forgot to tell him. I said I was not carrying and he said he could arrest me if he wanted to. I did not argue...but thought he was wrong. I just said I was sorry and he let me go.

In my experience State Troopers are the most often guilty of this. There's good Staties but most of them I've met tend to be...south bound ends of north bound horses.

While that assessment is not totally inaccurate, there is likely more to it than that. The Ohio State Highway Patrol is somewhat obsessive about executing policy. If you see something occur with state troopers on a regular basis, it is always wise to start tracing the practice up the chain of command. Keep in mind that the Colonel has historically been the chief opponent of many concealed carry liberties. I would not be surprised to learn that troopers have been spoon-fed that erroneous interpretation of Ohio law.

[GatorNavy]

Ok I get it..lol..
I am new at guns at least lately I am ..I just reserved my space for my CHL on jan 12th..(wish me luck). So maybe look at this from a newbies point of view. I would love to stick it to the man but I have to tell you I live in CANTON,OH does that ring a bell ....lol..thanks for the info I will take into consideration.

Harleywood

Oh yayyyyy the home of occifer Harless