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TX Mom shoots carjacker

Postby Bruenor » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:10 am

Good ending.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/05/te ... im-up.html

Michelle Booker-Hicks was at the Shell station along Interstate 35 around 10 p.m. Wednesday when Ricky Wright, 36, attempted to steal her vehicle while she was paying her gas bill, police said. Booker-Hicks told FOX4 Dallas her two sons, ages 2 and 4, were sitting in the backseat at the time.

“I proceeded to jump in my backseat and told the gentleman to stop, to get out the car. He would not get out of the car. He turned around and looked at me. I reached over the armrest to get my glove compartment and that’s when I fired at him once I got the gun from my glove compartment,”

Booker-Hicks shot Wright in the face while he was allegedly trying to drive away. He crashed the vehicle into the fence.
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Re: TX Mom shoots carjacker

Postby qmti » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:00 am

I read a initial article with more detail that she stated that she "should have unloaded the clip on him" on him. (yeah, I know it's suppose to be magazine). I tend to agree with that assessment of what she should have done. Later articles of the incident is omitting this statement, I wonder why.
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Re: TX Mom shoots carjacker

Postby M-Quigley » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:24 am

qmti wrote:I read a initial article with more detail that she stated that she "should have unloaded the clip on him" on him. (yeah, I know it's suppose to be magazine). I tend to agree with that assessment of what she should have done. Later articles of the incident is omitting this statement, I wonder why.


I certainly understand the sentiment, but as far as actually doing that, I respecfully disagree, for a couple of reasons. First is legally it's not a good idea to shoot any more than you have to in order to stop the situation. Even if she wouldn't have been indicted or convicted, there's always the civil arena to potentially consider.

The second reason is a tactical consideration. If you unnecessarily run your handgun dry on one person, and that person has friends accomplices, etc nearby you're at a disadvantage should they decide to attack. Now most of the time accomplices to a criminal hit the road when the shooting starts (and then post on social media how unjustified the shooting was :roll: ) You can't however count on that all the time, particularly if they witness you running your gun dry.

This part is a little concerning.

Booker-Hicks told FOX4 Dallas her two sons, ages 2 and 4, were sitting in the backseat at the time.

“I proceeded to jump in my backseat and told the gentleman to stop, to get out the car. He would not get out of the car. He turned around and looked at me. I reached over the armrest to get my glove compartment and that’s when I fired at him once I got the gun from my glove compartment,”


I understand the convenience of consoles, particularly if you don't have kids in the back seat, but there is a potential issue if they are inside. Many kids that age tend to get into stuff they're not supposed to when there is no adult supervision the car. I recall back when a couple of great grandkids were 2 and 4, and my wife and I got out of the car at a gas station. She went inside and I was just outside the car. Next thing I know, I see the 4 year old unbuckling herself to get into the console. When I asked her what she was doing, she said she thought some candy was in there. Fortunately my wife did not have a gun in the console that day, but had it with her instead.

As far as the shooting itself, she allegedly gave him a chance to get out, and he chose not to take the opportunity. As Dr Phil says,
"If you choose the behavior, you choose the consequences."
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Re: TX Mom shoots carjacker

Postby qmti » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:51 pm

I respectfully agree with your assessment M-Q. You fire until the threat is over which I she did. I just kinda like her "clip" statement.
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Re: TX Mom shoots carjacker

Postby Javelin Man » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:59 pm

And the carjacker was no "gentleman". :roll:
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Re: TX Mom shoots carjacker

Postby bignflnut » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:05 pm

A solid case for "thinking of the children".
Women and children were the beneficiaries of "gun violence" in this instance. Is "gun violence" universally to be denounced? What if this mother didn't have a gun? Kids get trafficked or dumped roadside? And for what, Disarmament?

Nobody desires this situation. This is not a happy thing. But what she had control over, she handled, because she understands that she can use a tool to defend her family. She didn't fear the tool, or the moment. She was simply ready.
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Re: TX Mom shoots carjacker

Postby Gramps » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:58 pm

She didn't fear the tool, or the moment. She was simply ready.


I like the way you stated the obvious.
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Re: TX Mom shoots carjacker

Postby TSiWRX » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:43 pm

M-Quigley wrote:I understand the convenience of consoles, particularly if you don't have kids in the back seat, but there is a potential issue if they are inside. Many kids that age tend to get into stuff they're not supposed to when there is no adult supervision the car. I recall back when a couple of great grandkids were 2 and 4, and my wife and I got out of the car at a gas station. She went inside and I was just outside the car. Next thing I know, I see the 4 year old unbuckling herself to get into the console. When I asked her what she was doing, she said she thought some candy was in there. Fortunately my wife did not have a gun in the console that day, but had it with her instead.


Agreed.

There's all too many cases of children - of all ages, from toddlers to teens - accessing the firearm that's stored in the vehicle's unsecured center console, passenger-side glovebox, or door cubby, only to hurt themselves, their sibling, or another innocent that's in the vehicle at the time.

I used to own a Subaru B9/Tribeca. The vehicle's ignition key is the same as the same as the one that locks/unlocks the glovebox. If the vehicle was turned on, unless the mother has another key with her, logic would suggest that the glovebox was then unlocked, and the firearm not truly secured.

Additionally, I think the mother's awfully lucky to have been able to reach the stored firearm.

I'll take luck over skill any day, but being lucky and hoping for the best really aren't valid plans: we've seen several recent incidents in which, as with adf8585's fight, the defender was able to access the stored handgun (viewtopic.php?f=42&t=91923&hilit=adf8585 - from the trunk, no less!!!), but this is a huge, huge risk.

Having a gun is always better than not having one, but in both of these cases, events could easily have unfolded in a manner that would not have been favorable to the defenders because they had to retrieve their guns from remote locations.
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