School Resource Officer Stops Shooter In MD

[djmac1964]

From CNN,

Two injured in Maryland school shooting 01:00

(CNN)A 17-year-old male student shot two other students at Great Mills High School in Maryland on Tuesday morning before a school resource officer engaged him and stopped the threat, authorities said.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/20/us/great ... index.html

[scottb]

Out of curiosity, did the students today in Maryland feel like they were in prison when the SRO saved many lives?

[M-Quigley]

Out of curiosity, did the students today in Maryland feel like they were in prison when the SRO saved many lives?

I think the prison comments are students being forced to go through metal detectors and having fences around the grounds.The shooting allegedly took place inside one of the school hallways. I think it's great that the casualty toll isn't double digit, and the SRO happened to be in the right place at the right time, and this SRO actually did his job, but if the armed student had been detected at the door, perhaps the two students who were wounded wouldn't have gotten shot in the first place.

[Javelin Man]

What was the officer thinking! He could have hit a student!

[M-Quigley]

What was the officer thinking! He could have hit a student!

Not according to the anti's, only armed civilian school staff shoot and miss.

[bignflnut]

As school systems across the country debate arming staff, state and local officials praised the actions of the school resource officer who fired at a gunman at Great Mills High School.

“He responded exactly as we train our personnel to respond," said St. Mary’s County Sheriff Tim Cameron of school resource officer Deputy First Class Blaine Gaskill. Police said Austin Rollins, 17, shot at two other students who were injured. Gaskill fired at Rollins, who almost simultaneously fired his handgun, Cameron said. Investigators are still trying to determine which bullets struck which individuals.

Rollins died at a hospital.

Gaskill was not injured during the incident, which unfolded in less than a minute.

"While it’s still tragic, he may have saved other people’s lives,” Gov. Larry Hogan said of Gaskill.

We all say that citizens can't carry cops around all the time. The solution to school violence is to carry cops around?

The Dems hypocritically object on the basis that it's too expensive (because on school funding they're fiscally prudent conservatives??). The Statists/GOP are all about licensing and training and giving special dispensations of grace to certain people who are willing to be fingerprinted, databased and ultimately controlled by this process.

Sure, it's positive that there was a cop nearby that ended the threat. Somehow, that wasn't an effective deterrent to the now deceased criminal. Parkland demonstrates that this outcome is not assured, even with cops on campus.

Consider, if you dare, that having citizens anonymously and randomly armed according to their God given Right to self-defense and RKBA, is a greater deterrent and offers a swifter response in a society boiling over with threats.

[Bruenor]

Out of curiosity, did the students today in Maryland feel like they were in prison when the SRO saved many lives?

I think the prison comments are students being forced to go through metal detectors and having fences around the grounds.The shooting allegedly took place inside one of the school hallways. I think it's great that the casualty toll isn't double digit, and the SRO happened to be in the right place at the right time, and this SRO actually did his job, but if the armed student had been detected at the door, perhaps the two students who were wounded wouldn't have gotten shot in the first place.

I wonder about the logistics of metal detectors at the doors. How long must it take to screen all the students on the way into the building ? Thikn of how long this takes at the airport. Wouldn't someone intent on doing harm just open fire and shoot everyone bunched up in line for the metal detector, especially and including the security personnel running it that might shoot back ?

[JustaShooter]

Out of curiosity, did the students today in Maryland feel like they were in prison when the SRO saved many lives?

I think the prison comments are students being forced to go through metal detectors and having fences around the grounds.The shooting allegedly took place inside one of the school hallways. I think it's great that the casualty toll isn't double digit, and the SRO happened to be in the right place at the right time, and this SRO actually did his job, but if the armed student had been detected at the door, perhaps the two students who were wounded wouldn't have gotten shot in the first place.

I wonder about the logistics of metal detectors at the doors. How long must it take to screen all the students on the way into the building ? Thikn of how long this takes at the airport. Wouldn't someone intent on doing harm just open fire and shoot everyone bunched up in line for the metal detector, especially and including the security personnel running it that might shoot back ?

Or wait till they break down (which will happen) and they take days to repair / replace, so you come prepared the *next* day...

[bignflnut]

I wonder about the logistics of metal detectors at the doors. How long must it take to screen all the students on the way into the building ? Thikn of how long this takes at the airport. Wouldn't someone intent on doing harm just open fire and shoot everyone bunched up in line for the metal detector, especially and including the security personnel running it that might shoot back ?

A friend who works in a school near Cinti reports to me that after Parkland, there was a call from administrators to get a metal detector. That the entire school did enter via this chosen door, were scanned, and that the line could take 40 minutes to get through. Shoes were not removed, like the brilliant TSA, fwiw.

THEN the cost/ politics kicked in: Maybe we can screen every other or a random number of students, to which a high ranking official replied that only male white kids should be screened, allowing minority students to pass, because they didn't fit the profile...

The appetite for screening seems to decrease a bit after these measures are undertaken -- Vigilance not being people's strong suit.

[JediSkipdogg]

Out of curiosity, did the students today in Maryland feel like they were in prison when the SRO saved many lives?

I think the prison comments are students being forced to go through metal detectors and having fences around the grounds.The shooting allegedly took place inside one of the school hallways. I think it's great that the casualty toll isn't double digit, and the SRO happened to be in the right place at the right time, and this SRO actually did his job, but if the armed student had been detected at the door, perhaps the two students who were wounded wouldn't have gotten shot in the first place.

I wonder about the logistics of metal detectors at the doors. How long must it take to screen all the students on the way into the building ? Thikn of how long this takes at the airport. Wouldn't someone intent on doing harm just open fire and shoot everyone bunched up in line for the metal detector, especially and including the security personnel running it that might shoot back ?

Here's a few quick stories on the ineffectiveness of metal detectors in schools...

2013 -
Atlanta school shooting raises doubts about metal detectors

2018 - Official: School metal detectors not in use day of shooting

I know there are more out there, just can't find other ones I've referenced. But one was the guard at the metal detectors was shot first, so basically made the guard and the detectors pointless.

[M-Quigley]

I know there are more out there, just can't find other ones I've referenced. But one was the guard at the metal detectors was shot first, so basically made the guard and the detectors pointless.

I don't know if metal detectors were in place, but I recall hearing about a school shooting overseas where the uniformed guard was shot first as the shooters went in. That is why you need trained and armed non uniformed school staff as a backup plan, even if you have an SRO. In that school the shooters were shot by two school staff after they entered.

[M-Quigley]

UPDATE:

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GREAT MILLS, Md. — The student who fatally shot a female classmate last week at a Maryland high school died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound during a confrontation with a school resource officer who also fired his gun, authorities said Monday.

The St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office said in a statement that 17-year-old Austin Rollins fired a fatal shot to his head just as he encountered sheriff's deputy Blaine Gaskill. The shot fired by Gaskill struck the gun in Rollins' hand, the sheriff's office added.

So the deputy did hit the shooter, he just didn't kill him. However the threat stopped, it still stopped. The Lubys cafeteria shooter wasn't killed by the police sniper either, but it wasn't until the sniper arrived that the shooter killed himself. If you look at mass shooters overall, most don't continue shooting innocent people after getting shot back at, regardless of whether or how they get hit. There are other examples of the same thing.

According to the sheriff's office, Rollins entered the main entrance of the school the day of the shooting about five minutes before he shot Willey in the head with his father's gun. The same bullet traveled into the leg of Desmond Barnes, who had sought shelter in a classroom.

Again, another case of a student able to just walk into the school with a handgun without anyone challenging him. Yes, I know that would slow things down.

Rollins then turned a corner and passed several classrooms before the confrontation with the school resource officer, which occurred about three minutes after shooting Willey, the sheriff's office said. Rollins and Gaskill fired their weapons about 30 seconds later.

Most schools nowadays have a policy of locking classroom doors during a shooting, so it's possible that is why he passed the classrooms. Or it could be he was looking for the SRO to confront him, after he killed the student that was the target of his anger.