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To find suspects, police quietly turn to Google

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It is good to be reminded on occasion that our other rights are also under attack and need to be defended vigorously. Case in point: WRAL is reporting that a number of unique warrants have been issued in Raleigh, North Carolina. These warrants requested (and were subsequently granted) data from *all mobile devices in the area surrounding a crime scene*. Normally, police must first identify a suspect before obtaining a warrant and searching their data. Not anymore.

To find suspects, police quietly turn to Google
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In at least four investigations last year – cases of murder, sexual battery and even possible arson at the massive downtown fire in March 2017 – Raleigh police used search warrants to demand Google accounts not of specific suspects, but from any mobile devices that veered too close to the scene of a crime, according to a WRAL News review of court records.
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They point out that, by seeking search warrants, they're carefully balancing civil rights with public safety.
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To bolster the point being made...
NSA whistleblower and former CIA employee Edward Snowden slammed Facebook in a Saturday tweet following the suspension of Strategic Communication Laboratories (SCL) and its political data analytics firm, Cambridge Analytica, over what Facebook says was imporoper use of collected data.

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In response to the ban, Edward Snowden fired off two tweets on Saturday criticizing Facebook, and claimed social media companies were simply "surveillance companies" who engaged in a "successful deception" by rebranding themselves.

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In his 2014 book: When Google Met WikiLeaks, Julian Assange describes Google's close relationship with the NSA and the Pentagon.

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Kim Dotcom has also opined on social media's close ties to the government, tweeting in February "Unfortunately all big US Internet companies are in bed with the deep state. Google, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc. are all providing backdoors to your data."

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In 2013, the Washington Post and The Guardian revealed that the NSA has backdoor access to all major Silicon Valley social media firms, including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple - all through the notorious PRISM program which began in 2007 under the Protect America Act.

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In 2006, Wired magazine published evidence from a retired AT&T communications technician, Mark Klein, that revealed a secret room used to "split" internet data at a San Francisco office as part of the NSA's bulk data collection techniques used on millions of Americans.

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"They are collecting everything on everybody," Klein said.
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Here's the problem you have...where do your rights go when you turn your data over to someone else? Does the Columbus PD really need a warrant for say Verizon cell phone records if they decide to go more liberal and simply release them to the PD? After all, doesn't Verizon own the data now? Isn't that the big deal Snowden brought up? It's not your data, it's Verizon's data and if they want to work back door deals with it they can.
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JediSkipdogg wrote:Here's the problem you have...where do your rights go when you turn your data over to someone else? ... After all, doesn't Verizon own the data now? Isn't that the big deal Snowden brought up? It's not your data, it's Verizon's data and if they want to work back door deals with it they can.
PINAC News obtained the lawsuit which was filed on Wednesday in Seattle. The lawsuit details how since 2015 Motel 6 gave 9,000 guest’s information to ICE without any search warrants being issued for the information.

Motel 6 responded to the lawsuit saying: “[The information released was limited to] the local level without the knowledge of senior management. Motel 6 takes this matter very seriously, and we have and will continue to fully cooperate with the Office of the State Attorney General.”

Initial allegations from The Phoenix New Times pointed to Motel 6 locations in Arizona that were giving information to ICE. When Ferguson heard of the allegations in Arizona, he launched his own investigation into Washington Motel 6 locations that engaged in the same practice.

In fact, Motel 6 employees from Washington locations told Ferguson that “ICE agents circled any Latino or Latina-sounding names on the guest registry, and returned to their vehicles.” The agents would then run background checks on the circled names without any reasonable suspicion or probable cause.

“Washingtonians have a right to privacy, and protection from discrimination. I will hold Motel 6 accountable and uncover the whole story of their disturbing conduct,” Ferguson said.

The attorney general noted in the lawsuit that Motel 6 used unfair and deceptive business practices and violated Washington state privacy laws, while also noting that Motel 6 engaged in discrimination based on nationality. The Washington State Supreme Court considers guest information private.
(Not directed at JSD) Double standard...privacy when we want to protect the rights of certain citizens, but not other times...
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