Deputy at Parkland Fl school was in position failed to act

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Re: Deputy at Parkland Fl school was in position failed to a

Postby qmti » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:07 pm

techmike wrote:New report states 3 more deputies waited outside, guns drawn behind their cars for a total of 4 armed deputies that did nothing.
" Coral Springs police officers claim three other Broward County deputies were outside the school but failed to go inside as well."
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/23/report-four-sheriff-scott-israels-deputies-waited-outside-douglas-high-school-shooting/

Maybe the LEO's need a adopt a motto like the Coast Guard has (You have to go out, but you don't have to come back) when it comes to saving innocent lives they are sworn to protect. There was a Tom Curse movie where a Marine made a statement, "it's our duty to protect those that can't protect themselves" or something like that. Yes, everyone wants to go home after their shift, then get a mall security job.
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Re: Deputy at Parkland Fl school was in position failed to a

Postby techmike » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:17 pm

The more I think on it, wondering if the deputies were told to hold in place. They all had to be in touch with dispatch, the first one via cell phone maybe, but the other three via car radios. Department policy? Take no action just do clean-up? It could not have been easy for them to do nothing while hearing shots inside a school. Still pi$$es me off greatly though.I recall the Texas cop that took on two terrorists with AK's and dispatched them with his Glock. Advancing towards the bad guys and near certain death.
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Re: Deputy at Parkland Fl school was in position failed to a

Postby deanimator » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:34 am

techmike wrote:The more I think on it, wondering if the deputies were told to hold in place. They all had to be in touch with dispatch, the first one via cell phone maybe, but the other three via car radios. Department policy? Take no action just do clean-up? It could not have been easy for them to do nothing while hearing shots inside a school. Still pi$$es me off greatly though.I recall the Texas cop that took on two terrorists with AK's and dispatched them with his Glock. Advancing towards the bad guys and near certain death.


According to the Sheriff (who is admittedly a loathsome snake, based on his CNN performance) the first deputy was in violation of policy.

Either the Sheriff is lying or the deputy's a coward.
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Re: Deputy at Parkland Fl school was in position failed to a

Postby High Power » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:28 am

Sheriff Israel is, indeed, a snake. Nobody likes to think this is possible but could Israel have been purposely letting Cruz do his own thing in the hopes that his department could catch/eliminate a bad guy then go on the campaign to "ban assault weapons?" Keep that in mind as you read about Israel's background and previous complaints against him and his department. Also keep in mind that ALL sheriff's are politicians first - law enforcement officers second.

Israel has been the subject of 10 internal affairs complaints, mainly for excessive force, although he was cleared in all of them. He served a stint as a SWAT commander and was North Bay Village chief of police from 2004 to 2008, but left to run for sheriff in 2008 and 2012. Israel eventually won in 2012, and easily won re-election in 2016.


Israel has historically been vocal concerning gun violence, opposing open-carry legislation and one law that would allow concealed weapons on campuses.


This isn’t the first time Israel’s agency has encountered trouble over its response to a mass shooting. Months after the Greater Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood Airport shooting, a 2017 Sun-Sentinel investigation revealed that Israel’s Broward Sheriff’s Office failed to “seize control and set up an effective command system” at the airport. BSO “erred from the very beginning in controlling the shooting scene in the baggage claim area of Terminal 2, where five people died and six others were wounded.” The reason, cited in a 99-page draft report by the agency itself, mentioned the sheriff’s office’s aging radio system, which garbled communications among officers, forcing police to improvise with “hand signals, runners and cellphones.”


Story here:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-who-is-broward-sheriff-scott-israel-20180223-story.html

In 2013, one of Israel's deputies shot an African-American kid who was listening to music through his ear-buds and carrying a rifle. The deputy was charge with murder and convicted in 2015. He has won the first appeal under the Stand-Your-Ground law in Florida. This case isn't over yet but...
Three months after the shooting, Israel awarded Peraza and another deputy the agency's Gold Cross award for their conduct that day, recognition that Young wants taken away.
The awards were given "prematurely" and the agency will make a decision about them after the criminal case is closed, Israel said earlier this year.


Story here: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-deputy-peraza-indicted-manslaughter-20151211-story.html

There is a lot more information to the text from this article than we may realize. This comment in this article may be rather revealing about Israel's operating paradigm.
As he enters his fourth year in office, Israel has turned out to be a pleasant surprise. He backs body cameras. He supported a marijuana decriminalization ordinance that allows deputies to issue $100 fines instead of hauling suspects to jail. His agency has shown a compassionate touch dealing with juveniles, the homeless and the mentally ill, while maintaining a firm grip on law and order.


Read the above quote again and see if you don't notice what I do.
1) Where is the body-cam imagery from the deputies that waited outside the school; if they had them?
2) He is a typical liberal-gun-grabbing-democrat. They would rather legalize drugs and ban guns.
3) He had lots if information on Cruz who was, allegedly, showing signs of mental apparitions and issuing threats. Yet he and his department did nothing. From the outset, Cruz could have been charged with making threats, which is a crime in all states.

Story here: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-broward-sheriff-mayocol-b121715-20151216-column.html

You can draw your own conclusions on this next article:
When Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel Was Accused of Corruption, He Responded: 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'

Story here: https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/23/broward-county-sheriff-scott-israel-accu

At least one politician has wised up and requested Israel's ouster: http://cbs12.com/news/local/lawmaker-asks-gov-scott-to-remove-broward-sheriff-scott-israel-after-parkland-shooting

Israel was really putting up a smoke screen to conceal his incompetence the other day by attacking Dana Loesch. Let's see if it continues to work.
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Re: Deputy at Parkland Fl school was in position failed to a

Postby Bruenor » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:04 pm

From the resource officers 911 call. So much for his claim he thought the gunfire was outside.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -call.html
On Thursday, his 911 call was released. On it, he can be heard clearly telling the operator that the gunfire is 'inside' the building.

Afterwards, he tells them: 'Do not approach the 12 and 1300 building. Stay at least 500ft away at this point.'

That call was at 2.27pm, by which point gunman Nikolas Cruz had finished killing and had dumped his AR-15 rifle inside to flee in a crowd of scared students.
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Re: Deputy at Parkland Fl school was in position failed to a

Postby High Power » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:08 pm

Bruenor wrote:From the resource officers 911 call. So much for his claim he thought the gunfire was outside.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -call.html
On Thursday, his 911 call was released. On it, he can be heard clearly telling the operator that the gunfire is 'inside' the building.

Afterwards, he tells them: 'Do not approach the 12 and 1300 building. Stay at least 500ft away at this point.'

That call was at 2.27pm, by which point gunman Nikolas Cruz had finished killing and had dumped his AR-15 rifle inside to flee in a crowd of scared students.

Yet, again, another good reason for body-cams that cannot be turned off, disabled or erased.
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Re: Deputy at Parkland Fl school was in position failed to a

Postby bignflnut » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:34 pm

BREAKING: A Broward judge has ordered the public release of video clips showing the outside of Parkland school shooting, footage that shows Deputy Scot Peterson not going inside to confront shooter Nikolas Cruz

— David Ovalle (@DavidOvalle305) March 12, 2018



Judge also ruled state didn't prove how release of four clips would harm investigation into Nikolas Cruz, who is already jailed awaiting trial for first-degree murder.

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