Re: caller reporting rape shot by police while on phone w/th
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:44 pm
If the Officer somehow stays on the force, I'll bet it will be hard to find a partner/rider.
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curious how accurate these sources are.Bruno said Harrity was driving the squad car and Noor was in the passenger seat. Police sources tell KARE 11 Noor reached across Harrity and fired several shots out the window, striking Damond.
When Noor opened fire, his partner was "stunned," according to the source. .
According to the BCA’s preliminary investigation, Noor and the officer driving the car, Harrity, responded to a 911 call from Damond about a possible assault near her home around 11:30 pm Saturday night.
Harrity said he was startled by a loud noise just before Damond approached the driver’s side window. That’s when Noor fired his gun, according to Harrity.
A) Isn't there generally a 48 hour period before they have to give a statement. That gives much time to discuss various defensive strategies before it's time to go "on the record". Plenty enough time to get everyone on the same page of the script.Brian D. wrote:I've read a lot about this today. Right now I see no reasonable defense for the officer's actions. None, nada, zilch.
And if that's not good enough, the victim's character (and those of her friends and family) will be dragged through the mud.bignflnut wrote:A) Isn't there generally a 48 hour period before they have to give a statement. That gives much time to discuss various defensive strategies before it's time to go "on the record". Plenty enough time to get everyone on the same page of the script.Brian D. wrote:I've read a lot about this today. Right now I see no reasonable defense for the officer's actions. None, nada, zilch.
B) Who said anything about "reasonable"? You know there simply needs to be a great fear. Reasonable or not. Benefit of the doubt goes to the costume. Without contradicting video, his word is good as gold.
How long does it take to draw, acquire a target and fire from a seated position in a car? My guess is longer than it takes to recover from being startled. Or was this guy riding around holding his gun in his lap?Bruenor wrote:Heard a loud noise, so he shot the first thing he saw moving.....
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/18/of ... sound.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;According to the BCA’s preliminary investigation, Noor and the officer driving the car, Harrity, responded to a 911 call from Damond about a possible assault near her home around 11:30 pm Saturday night.
Harrity said he was startled by a loud noise just before Damond approached the driver’s side window. That’s when Noor fired his gun, according to Harrity.
Well, if the part about the shooter firing his handgun in the car is face is accurate, I'll bet the "stunned" part is true.Bruenor wrote:Radio audio after shooting
http://www.mnpoliceclips.com/Minneapoli ... unds-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.kare11.com/news/mpls-police- ... /457339023" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;curious how accurate these sources are.Bruno said Harrity was driving the squad car and Noor was in the passenger seat. Police sources tell KARE 11 Noor reached across Harrity and fired several shots out the window, striking Damond.
When Noor opened fire, his partner was "stunned," according to the source. .
Cop or not; if I was the one in the driver's seat and a gun was fired in front of my face, I would be extremely POed with my [former] partner. I would not be abiding by any "code of silence" or adhering to any "thin blue line;" especially after firing a gun in front of my face.M-Quigley wrote:Well, if the part about the shooter firing his handgun in the car is face is accurate, I'll bet the "stunned" part is true.Bruenor wrote:Radio audio after shooting
http://www.mnpoliceclips.com/Minneapoli ... unds-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.kare11.com/news/mpls-police- ... /457339023" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;curious how accurate these sources are.Bruno said Harrity was driving the squad car and Noor was in the passenger seat. Police sources tell KARE 11 Noor reached across Harrity and fired several shots out the window, striking Damond.
When Noor opened fire, his partner was "stunned," according to the source. .
I wonder if the cop is left or right handed. The graphic computer simulation showed the passenger cop firing his gun with his left hand, one handed, essentially in front of the drivers face. If he was right handed, that would be harder to do. (in front of drivers face I mean)
If he was right handed, all he'd have to do is lean forward slightly and toward the "threat". Pretty natural if you are going to shoot around the driver.M-Quigley wrote:Well, if the part about the shooter firing his handgun in the car is face is accurate, I'll bet the "stunned" part is true.Bruenor wrote:Radio audio after shooting
http://www.mnpoliceclips.com/Minneapoli ... unds-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.kare11.com/news/mpls-police- ... /457339023" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;curious how accurate these sources are.Bruno said Harrity was driving the squad car and Noor was in the passenger seat. Police sources tell KARE 11 Noor reached across Harrity and fired several shots out the window, striking Damond.
When Noor opened fire, his partner was "stunned," according to the source. .
I wonder if the cop is left or right handed. The graphic computer simulation showed the passenger cop firing his gun with his left hand, one handed, essentially in front of the drivers face. If he was right handed, that would be harder to do. (in front of drivers face I mean)
It's very complicated due to the clash of multiple narratives:High Power wrote:Cop or not; if I was the one in the driver's seat and a gun was fired in front of my face, I would be extremely POed with my [former] partner. I would not be abiding by any "code of silence" or adhering to any "thin blue line;" especially after firing a gun in front of my face.
If I had to bet, that's going to rank VERY far down the rank and file's list of priorities.High Power wrote:That's not to say that I wouldn't be upset about the moron taking an innocent person's life.
deanimator wrote:It's very complicated due to the clash of multiple narratives:High Power wrote:Cop or not; if I was the one in the driver's seat and a gun was fired in front of my face, I would be extremely POed with my [former] partner. I would not be abiding by any "code of silence" or adhering to any "thin blue line;" especially after firing a gun in front of my face.If the partner does testify against the shooter, at least SOME other cops will attempt to brand him a "rat" and punish him. Others won't care because of the shooter's identity.
- The victim HAD to be responsible somehow.
- The cop's the real "victim".
- You NEVER testify against another cop, ESPECIALLY your partner.
- Muslims are always on the edge of jihad.
- Muslims NEVER commit jihad.
- Police should shoot any time they're "afraid".
- Police should only shoot when they have a REASONABLE fear.
- The victim had it coming because of all the Black people who've been shot by police.
- The victim was shot because of a lack of gun control.
On the plus side, all of this will probably cause the left to further destroy itself in internecine warfare. Is he guilty because he's a cop? No. Or is he not guilty because he's a Black Muslim who shot a White woman? No. Is this "violence against women", or is it "checking White privilege? No.
All those factors may be indicative of his motivation or mindset. In the end, he is just plain guilty.
If I had to bet, that's going to rank VERY far down the rank and file's list of priorities. It's sad to say but you are probably 100% correct.High Power wrote:That's not to say that I wouldn't be upset about the moron taking an innocent person's life.
Between the various factions of the "resistance" and the "[only] blue lives matter" types, facts won't even be a consideration.High Power wrote:All those factors may be indicative of his motivation or mindset. In the end, he is just plain guilty.
According to Noor's version when they reached the end of the alley, they came across a waiting, panicking figure.
It was dark, and the figure was moving around and approached their vehicle.
Noor said he did not know whether the figure who rushed towards their vehicle was the 911 caller or even if it was a man or woman.
He his weapon through Harrity's open driver's window hitting his victim once in the abdomen.
Of course he's going to say he felt he was in danger. at this point he doesn't have any other arguments available on his side. Too skittish to be a police officer. Was told the caller was panicking, what would he expect her to do when the cruiser showed up on scene.The friend said: 'Mohamed believes he acted to protect himself and his colleague, but accepts since that she was not armed.
'It was over in seconds and it was a very tense moment. He is sorry for the woman and her family.
'But he would never have opened fire without genuinely feeling in danger.'
The officer, who is now suspended form the Minneapolis P.D., feels he has been 'thrown under the bus' by his Minneapolis police colleagues, the friend said.
'He is aware that they normally come together at times like this and support each other with slogans like 'Blue Lives Matter'.
'But in this situation he has realized he is probably alone with his legal team and Somali police colleagues.
'He feels like he is being thrown under the bus and his colleagues are accusing him of not showing proper police conduct on Saturday night.