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Bama.45 wrote:Deters lost my respect with the Pacman Jones fiasco and him saying he was waiting to see what the NFL did to punish Jones. That's a cock of horse crap. If it would have been an average Joe, they'd have been charged and prosecuted no matter what their employer did to discipline them.
That's quite normal in court cases. One I am most familiar with is police officers and LEADS violations. They generally won't go forward on a charge for misuse of LEADS if the agency terminates the officer in some fashion (firing or resignation.) This way the end game is the same (officer can't use LEADS anymore) and it saves the taxpayers money from a trial.
Bama.45 wrote:I guess my main question is, how does keeping on trying a person back to back stay inside the constitutional confines of a speedy trial? I mean it's like Deters is going to keep on until he gets a jury that convicts Tensing. While I agree Tensing should pay for his actions, I don't agree with murder.
Do people really think speedy trial exists? That is essentially one of the first things everyone waves. You ask for one continuance, even if it's discovery for the evidence to be used against you, and you waive your right to a speedy trial. Once waived, then it can go on forever.
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Still, if Joe Smoe assualted a police officer, and spat on a nurse in jail. It wouldn't matter if Home Depot fired him. He'd be charged and prosecuted for the crimes. Especially if there was a pattern of violent behavior like Jones has...Deters let Jones off because of who he is and who he plays for period.
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Bama.45 wrote:Deters let Jones off because of who he is and who he plays for period.
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"Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters won't announce this week if he'll seek a third trial against Ray Tensing. He may announce his decision next week, spokeswoman Julie Wilson said Wednesday. Two juries have deadlocked over the past eight months, resulting in two mistrials. Deters has until July 24 to decide. That's when Judge Leslie Ghiz scheduled the next hearing. Tensing's defense team filed a motion last month to acquit him of all charges."

Boy am I surprised (cough) :roll: Talk about "fanning the flames".

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Ray Tensing walks, at least on any state charges. Now the union can fight to get his job back and get him a monetary settlement for the time he was off. Or if they refuse to hire him back, some additional settlement I guess.

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It's been 46 years since my high school government class, can the Ohio AG charge him and move the trial elsewhere??
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dustymedic wrote:It's been 46 years since my high school government class, can the Ohio AG charge him and move the trial elsewhere??
Someone can tell me I'm wrong, but I don't think he can. I think the Ohio AG can only give legal advice to law enforcement and prosecutors. In terms of court cases, they can start civil cases but not criminal cases, and those are only ones against the state of Ohio.
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docachna wrote:
bignflnut wrote: Lets not assume that the juries are A) patriotic B) Intelligent C) Honest D) Immune from coersion
This is the part where you need a moral, educated culture to uphold your Republic.
I've watched videos of mock juries deliberating in mock trials, where they had been told that the parties had agreed to resolve their case with this jury, so they THOUGHT they were actually deciding the case, where actually, it was just a dry run to examine how juries actually do deliberate (these were civil cases, of course).

It made my blood run cold, listening to some of what I heard. You would be amazed at how some people approach it. And if that's how they're deciding whether to award money, what about deciding whether to take away somebody's liberty ????
I was on a (real) jury for a murder trial 40 years ago. You are right, it is scary. One of the first comments when we went into the jury room was "Let's get this over with, I want to watch the Red's game this afternoon".
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OhioPaints wrote:I was on a (real) jury for a murder trial 40 years ago. You are right, it is scary. One of the first comments when we went into the jury room was "Let's get this over with, I want to watch the Red's game this afternoon".
LOL that would necessarily have been a long time ago...like 1975...because the Reds suck +++ these days and it's hard to believe anyone likes them that much (which would be scary).
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M-Quigley wrote:Ray Tensing walks, at least on any state charges. Now the union can fight to get his job back and get him a monetary settlement for the time he was off. Or if they refuse to hire him back, some additional settlement I guess.
Well he just got his backpay and legal fees $344,000.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... paign=1490" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As part of the settlement, the union said, Tensing has resigned and will not pursue any other claims against the university.
The University of Cincinnati agreed to pay more than $244,000 in back pay and benefits and $100,000 in legal fees, the two sides said.

'I realize this agreement will be difficult for our community,' university President Neville Pinto said.

'I am nevertheless hopeful that we can focus on supporting each other as members of the same Bearcat family - even, perhaps especially, if we don't agree.'

The university earlier reached a $5.3 million settlement with DuBose's family, including free undergraduate tuition for his 13 children.
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100 grand in legal fees? How is that possible? Did the FOP cover most of it or did his lawyer work pro bono?

Also, is Sheriff Richard K. Jones going to keep his promise to consider hiring him?
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M-Quigley wrote:100 grand in legal fees? How is that possible? Did the FOP cover most of it or did his lawyer work pro bono?

Also, is Sheriff Richard K. Jones going to keep his promise to consider hiring him?
He had tons of fundraisers so I'm sure that covered most of it.

Not sure on the Jones part, but I doubt he wants to work in law enforcement again. Most that end up in a case this large just want out and to hide.
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M-Quigley wrote:100 grand in legal fees? How is that possible? Did the FOP cover most of it or did his lawyer work pro bono?

Also, is Sheriff Richard K. Jones going to keep his promise to consider hiring him?
Two trials, and it's not like the attorneys were working for free in the times leading up to them. This all dragged out 18 months or more, I lost track of how long.

And, Sheriff Jones says what he means, often to the chagrin of party leaders who have thought about drafting him to run for higher level offices. If Tending applied there, he'd be given fair, honest consideration.
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