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US Marine Brandon Raub held for posting his thoughts

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A former Marine involuntarily detained for psychiatric evaluation for posting strident anti-government messages on Facebook has received an outpouring of support from people who say authorities are trampling on his First Amendment rights.

Brandon J. Raub, 26, has been in custody since FBI, Secret Service agents and police in Virginia's Chesterfield County questioned him Thursday evening about what they said were ominous posts talking about a coming revolution.

Raub's supporters characterized the detention as an arrest, complaining he was handcuffed and whisked away in a police cruiser without being served a warrant or read his rights. But authorities say it wasn't an arrest because Raub doesn't face criminal charges.
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It may be part of a deliberate Pentagon policy to declare people who are vets and concerned about eroding freedoms – as Raub obviously was – to be emotionally disturbed and thus ineligible to carry or use weapons.

Nobody can quite figure out why Raub was arrested (as the sentiments he voiced are posted every day on the 'Net) but if our analysis is correct, Raub was picked up at least in part for exhibiting racist tendencies. He'll be let go, in our estimation, but not before he's labeled as emotionally disturbed and receives a weapons ban.
search Raub and a great deal of information will spring forth.
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Oath Keepers to defend Raub:
As Brandon Smith illustrates, this is exactly what the Soviet Union did to dissidents who dared to criticize the communist regime – they were labeled “insane” and carted off to mental wards. Now it has begun here in America. This is a blatant circumvention of constitutional criminal due process which is every bit as dangerous as being designated an “unlawful combatant” under the NDAA and taken away to a military brig for detention without charges. How is this any different? Mental health detention can be used in exactly the same way. This is an incredibly dangerous crossing of a critical line in the sand – the politicization of the mental health system, using it as a weapon against dissidents to punish them for their constitutionally protected political speech. This case is the camel’s nose under the tent, and we need to stomp on it HARD, right now. And we will.
Ben Swann on Raub.

How long before the Oath Keepers are labelled negatively?
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Judge ordered his release

BREAKING! U.S. Marine Brandon Raub Released. Judge: "Case Dismissed"
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Video of attny interview (Raub was playing a game with words)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogVdPvNo ... r_embedded#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;!
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The whole situation stinks. Being arrested with no warrant and taken in for a psych exam? I'm pretty sure this is not an isolated incident.
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pirateguy191 wrote:The whole situation stinks. Being arrested with no warrant and taken in for a psych exam? I'm pretty sure this is not an isolated incident.
It isn't isolated. There are:

Matthew Corrigan, Army reservist
Several months ago, Washington, D.C. resident Matthew Corrigan, a depressed veteran seeking help for a sleeping disorder, was arrested by a SWAT team after he mistakenly called the National Suicide Hotline. Despite the fact that he was neither a criminal suspect nor a suicide risk, Corrigan – like Raub -- was hauled away in handcuffs and imprisoned.

When Corrigan, an Army Reservist employed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, placed the phone call on February 2, 2010, he hadn’t slept for several days. He dialed what he thought was the number to the Military Emotional Support Hotline. While speaking with a counselor, Corrigan mentioned that he was a veteran, and answered “yes” when asked if he owned a firearm. He then turned off the phone, took a sleeping pill, and retired for the night.

At about 4:00 a.m., Corrigan was startled awake by the sound of his name being called through a police bullhorn. Ordered to come out of the house, Corrigan did so, locking the door behind him. He was surrounded by police, handcuffed, and put in the back of a van. When the officer commanding the Emergency Response Team (ERT, the local equivalent of SWAT) demanded access to his home, Corrigan replied: “There is no way I am giving you consent to enter my place.”
David Pyles in Oregon;
On March 8, 2010, David Pyles of Medford, Oregon awoke to find his home surrounded by company-strength contingent of police -- two SWAT teams, officers from two local police departments, sheriff’s deputies from two counties, and troopers from the Oregon State Police. A few days earlier, Pyles had purchased two handguns and an AK-47 rifle. Shortly before he used a tax refund to buy the guns, Pyles had been put on administrative leave by the Oregon Department of Transportation.

This convergence of events led police to categorize Pyles — without evidence of criminal intent or derangement — as a “disgruntled employee” planning retaliation of some kind against his ODOT supervisor. The police that surrounded his house demanded that he submit to a mental health evaluation. They also seized his firearms for “safekeeping.”
Gregory Girard;
Girard’s “arsenal” came to the attention of the police when his wife, a psychiatrist, told them that she was afraid to return to their home following an argument.On the following day the police were contacted by the ATF, which relayed a report from someone described as a “friend” of Girard’s wife who supposedly saw hand grenades in the apartment.

At the time, Girard held a Class A firearms license and had registered all of his weapons. Glenn McKiel, Chief of the Manchester-by-the-sea Police Department, revoked Girard’s license and called in the Cape Ann Response Team (CART) — the Homeland Security State’s local paramilitary affiliate — for a joint assault on Girard’s home.

Among the specific concerns related to the police by Girard’s wife was his supposedly alarming view that martial law is imminent. In terms of his personal experience, Girard’s fears were vindicated in every detail by the behavior of the police who invaded his home.
and David Sarti;
The same spurious classification was used to detain and disarm David Sarti, an honorably discharged Air Force veteran and truck driver from Lebanon, Tennessee. In January of this year, Sarti was declared “mentally incompetent” and had his firearms confiscated by the state government after appearing on the National Geographic Channel’s program “Doomsday Preppers.” This was done on the pretext that Sarti, who had sought treatment following what he thought might have been a heart attack in late 2011, was supposedly a suicide risk.

During the examination, the physician brought up the subject of suicide. “I told him I can’t do suicide, because I’m a Christian,” Sarti explains. Told that he had to go to the emergency room, Sarti objected that he had to see to his farm, and went home. Fifteen minutes later, sheriff’s deputies materialized on Sarti’s property and forcibly took him to the emergency room.
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This is happening all to often and could conceivably happen to any one of us.
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Sir, you're under arrest. You've had to much to think.
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Bahhh....hats of tinfoil going on here. Nothing going on here.

A conspiracy theory is only a theory of conspiracy until that theory is proven fact.

Five years ago "US government sending firearms to Mexico to subvert the US Constitution's Second Amendment".....

Get the tin foil hats everyone!!!

Oh, wait........
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wkdravenna wrote:Sir, you're under arrest. You've had to much to think.
You can think all you want, just don't say it. Just wait it'll get better I really can't wait to see the show.
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SigMan wrote:
wkdravenna wrote:Sir, you're under arrest. You've had to much to think.
You can think all you want, just don't say it. Just wait it'll get better I really can't wait to see the show.
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wkdravenna wrote:
SigMan wrote:
wkdravenna wrote:Sir, you're under arrest. You've had to much to think.
You can think all you want, just don't say it. Just wait it'll get better I really can't wait to see the show.
Welcome to the no fly list. :D
Nothing new to me I have no reason to fly anyways. :)
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