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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Beskar'gam » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:35 am

carmen fovozzo wrote:Other then the obvious...


Um, which parts aren't obvious? :o
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby JediSkipdogg » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:38 am

Just think of all the taxpayer money being wasted on all these fishing expeditions. If she wants to go fishing, there's water on three sides of the state. I'll even buy her the pole. At least her odds of catching something are better that way.
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Bianchi? » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:42 am

JediSkipdogg wrote:Just think of all the taxpayer money being wasted on all these fishing expeditions. If she wants to go fishing, there's water on three sides of the state. I'll even buy her the pole. At least her odds of catching something are better that way.


Heck, just send her for a ride with the OSHP. They do plenty of fishing as well.
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby carmen fovozzo » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:20 pm

So some are saying this accusation should be ignored by the prosecution ? Or are you...?
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Vex » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:25 pm

Beskar'gam wrote:
I have to agree, true or not - it has no bearing on the case at hand unless they are planning on amending the charges to include it


Agree. If the sexual abuse accusations are true, they did not happen in Florida, they happened in Virginia between 1991 and 2001. They have zero bearing on the murder case, but the victim called the Sanford police a mere two days after hearing about the incident to tell her story, which at this point is 11 years old. The prosecution knew the defense had a motion to suppress the release of Witness 9's statements as irrelevant, but she released them anyway. Read that again, she knew there was a motion, but she released them anyway before the motion was ruled on.

How's that for misconduct? Angela Corey needs kicked off this case, pronto.
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby bignflnut » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:31 pm

clearly he's got a pit in his house that he lowers lotion into while chanting... He had a beer with Jerry Sandusky every week for a year and he ultimately hopes to land on Springer one day.

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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby carmen fovozzo » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:39 pm

Vex wrote:
Beskar'gam wrote:
I have to agree, true or not - it has no bearing on the case at hand unless they are planning on amending the charges to include it


Agree. If the sexual abuse accusations are true, they did not happen in Florida, they happened in Virginia between 1991 and 2001. They have zero bearing on the murder case, but the victim called the Sanford police a mere two days after hearing about the incident to tell her story, which at this point is 11 years old. The prosecution knew the defense had a motion to suppress the release of Witness 9's statements as irrelevant, but she released them anyway. Read that again, she knew there was a motion, but she released them anyway before the motion was ruled on.

How's that for misconduct? Angela Corey needs kicked off this case, pronto.


Vex, the way I read it Corey had nothing to do with the release of that info. Quite the opposite...
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Beskar'gam » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:54 pm

So some are saying this accusation should be ignored by the prosecution ?


Of course not, well, I'm not - it should, however, be inadmissible for these proceedings. If they want to use the allegations to crucify him in the court of public opinion, well that ship has sailed

Vex wrote:The prosecution knew the defense had a motion to suppress the release of Witness 9's statements as irrelevant, but she released them anyway.


Would that be misconduct? If it had not been ruled on yet, I wouldn't think there would be anything to prevent the release. I'm not saying it's right, it's sneaky and underhanded as all get-out - but illegal? I dunno, i think that would be more for the Bar to decide
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Mustang380gal » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:59 pm

Corey released it. She's not incompetent; she's shrewd and unethical. She'll do what it takes to get the results she wants, even if it isn't just.

Worse yet, there has been a motion made for Lester the judge to recuse himself. He is not supposed to make any orders related to the case until that motion is acted on. He is still making orders.

Zimmerman is getting railroaded. With this latest allegation, he will not survive long in prison if it comes to that. He's a racist, murdering child molester, don't you know?
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Beskar'gam » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:01 pm

Mustang380gal wrote:With this latest allegation, he will not survive long in prison if it comes to that. He's a racist, murdering child molester, don't you know?


Speculation: Have to wonder if that might not be the point...
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Mustang380gal » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:04 pm

I believe that it is exactly the point.

He's the sacrificial lamb to effect whatever politics the race-baiters are desiring.
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Morne » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:31 pm

I suppose it would be too much to ask for EVIDENCE regarding the alleged abuse? Or at the least, corroborating testimony and/or a pattern of similar allegations from other unrelated victims?

Just making an accusation should not be good enough. Ask that complainant from Duke...
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby Beskar'gam » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:47 pm

Morne wrote:I suppose it would be too much to ask for EVIDENCE regarding the alleged abuse? Or at the least, corroborating testimony and/or a pattern of similar allegations from other unrelated victims?


Yes, it would. How many years have passed? For sure, any statute of limitations has come and gone, correct? Incendiary and vilifying statements are all that is left - might be true, might not be - but good luck proving either way

Morne wrote:Just making an accusation should not be good enough.


And yet....it so often is
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby JediSkipdogg » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:25 pm

Beskar'gam wrote:
Morne wrote:I suppose it would be too much to ask for EVIDENCE regarding the alleged abuse? Or at the least, corroborating testimony and/or a pattern of similar allegations from other unrelated victims?


Yes, it would. How many years have passed? For sure, any statute of limitations has come and gone, correct? Incendiary and vilifying statements are all that is left - might be true, might not be - but good luck proving either way


Most states have no statute of limitations on sex crimes and homicides.

Beskar'gam wrote:
Morne wrote:Just making an accusation should not be good enough.


And yet....it so often is


Sadly, that's the truth. Anyone here can have a felony warrant issued in their name in under 5 minutes. Now, there are repercussions when it's found untrue, but think how much it will ruin your life before then.
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Re: Now Zimmerman's a child molester?

Postby gmhiggins » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:35 pm

carmen fovozzo wrote:So some are saying this accusation should be ignored by the prosecution ? Or are you...?


I don't think anyone is saying that, they are saying simply that it isn't relevant to a murder 2 charge, because it isn't. Or, this accusation should be ignored by THIS prosecution for THIS case. It shouldn't be ignored in general. If it was truly such a "bombshell" that was credible or serious, why haven't they filed charges against him for it?

The right and just thing to do is to file charges against Zimmerman for it (if there is evidence or credible testimony), NOT parade it around in the public view attempting to use it to show he is "guilty" of murder 2.

It's just like the racism angle of this stupid case. There's nothing to show he's a racist. The 911 calls were already shown that NBC edited the tapes (purposely) to attempt to paint him as a racist. The FBI found no reason to show he was a racist. But they still press on, claiming anything they can in an attempt to win a case that is quickly falling apart.

Now, if you defend Zimmerman...you support racist child molesters who stalk and kill innocent children :roll:
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