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Javelin Man wrote:The school is to have records and knowledge of allergies, diabetes, and other food requirements so they wouldn't send a diabetic home with no food. In an ideal setting, that is.
I would agree to an extent but diabetes has changed drastically over the years/decades. Something like that could cause huge issues for a kid. Any changes in food can change the blood sugar drastically enough to cause a health concern. I also can't see them saying, "oh, since that kid is diabetic we won't touch his food, but little joey here isn't and we don't like it, so we are changing his food out." That basicaly there alone opens a can of worms IMO.
One of the 700 WLW shows hit on this I think yesterday as well. They said they find it ironic that the schools want to tell kids what they can eat and at the same time they put gym as one of the first things to cut. Let kids eat what they want and get them exercising. Let kids be kids. If there is a health issue, that's what child services is for to investigate.
I am not a lawyer. My answers are based on research, knowledge, and are generally backed up with facts, the Ohio Revised Code, or the United States Code.
I am not a lawyer. My answers are based on research, knowledge, and are generally backed up with facts, the Ohio Revised Code, or the United States Code.
I seem to recall reading last night the school has apologized and laid blame on one teacher.
(Insert sound of bus running over sacrifice)
Unfortunately I was so sleep deprived I can't recall which news site it was, so sadly cannot cite the reference.
(edit: okay, found a you tube, here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_pWwoAb83g
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I'll just say, I would call the police before I called CPS. Especially if I felt a child's life was in danger. At least that way due process would be protected with a proper trial rather than having someone subject to the whims of a court evaluator (Psychologists, mediators etc) who operate with no legal standards of evidence. CPS has only one hammer in their toolbox (remove children from parents) so to them every problem looks like a nail and the system is weighted towards the opinions of elite "experts" and away from a fair trial by jury.
Many a mother looking for help in an abusive relationship has found their children removed simply because they don't understand CPS is not their friend and advocate and they don't know how the system works. CPS is not law enforcement but they are civilians that have been granted limited law enforcement like powers without the checks and balances of the regular court system. CPS as a whole may mean well but power is too easily abused by individuals to be trusted.
Klingon00 wrote:I'll just say, I would call the police before I called CPS. Especially if I felt a child's life was in danger. At least that way due process would be protected with a proper trial rather than having someone subject to the whims of a court evaluator (Psychologists, mediators etc) who operate with no legal standards of evidence. CPS has only one hammer in their toolbox (remove children from parents) so to them every problem looks like a nail and the system is weighted towards the opinions of elite "experts" and away from a fair trial by jury.
Many a mother looking for help in an abusive relationship has found their children removed simply because they don't understand CPS is not their friend and advocate and they don't know how the system works. CPS is not law enforcement but they are civilians that have been granted limited law enforcement like powers without the checks and balances of the regular court system. CPS as a whole may mean well but power is too easily abused by individuals to be trusted.
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JediSkipdogg wrote:Well, who should handle a 5 year old that weighs 150 lbs?
His/her parents, their siblings and extended families, their friends, their pastors, and their neighbors - perhaps in that exact order.
We have to draw the line somewhere and stop replacing societal norms (and good old-fashioned shame) with government control.
Abso-freakin-lutely!
Jedi: You obviously have no experience with CPS. They make the lunch grabbers look like amateurs.
241-KIDS down here in Cincinnati (aka Hamilton County Job & Family Services) is actually very good. The relationship between them and the police is a superb one. I don't know about other parts of the state, but they do a very good job at keeping kids safe. Now again, that's Hamilton County, I can't speak too highly of Butler and Clermont county. There the kid would be safe starving than doing what they say to do. Heck, those two counties return kids to parents to get them killed.
I am not a lawyer. My answers are based on research, knowledge, and are generally backed up with facts, the Ohio Revised Code, or the United States Code.
JediSkipdogg wrote:Well, who should handle a 5 year old that weighs 150 lbs?
His/her parents, their siblings and extended families, their friends, their pastors, and their neighbors - perhaps in that exact order.
We have to draw the line somewhere and stop replacing societal norms (and good old-fashioned shame) with government control.
jabeatty wrote:
JediSkipdogg wrote:If there is a health issue, that's what child services is for to investigate.
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Socialism is good in all non-gun areas of life?
The 2A movement is horribly two faced when it comes to Liberty. Scream about gun rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association and now freedom of lunch because they don't believe government should be mandating what you put into your body (food) but then support the war on drugs doing the same thing.
I wish most of the 2A crowd would drop the Liberty banner and just stand behind the 2A banner.
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dbw8906 wrote:The 2A movement is horribly two faced when it comes to Liberty. Scream about gun rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association and now freedom of lunch because they don't believe government should be mandating what you put into your body (food) but then support the war on drugs doing the same thing.
I'm not sure why you've chosen my quotes to post this to - if you do a little searching, you'll see that I've made my position on the War on (some) Drugs quite clear.
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